Thank you, Jim. Importantly, the prayer that we need is for the truth, whatever it may be. Not to have our preset idea proven. We need specifically an honest, child-like prayer for the truth, made from a pure heart and with an open mind.
I don't know what the truth is. I have an opinion, I think I am right but I always keep an open mind.…
Thank you, Jim. Importantly, the prayer that we need is for the truth, whatever it may be. Not to have our preset idea proven. We need specifically an honest, child-like prayer for the truth, made from a pure heart and with an open mind.
I don't know what the truth is. I have an opinion, I think I am right but I always keep an open mind. As far as Desmet being an apologist, I can only repeat what I said in other comments. While I cannot say "I know for sure he is not a spy" because I don't know for sure, I think the people reading his work react to it based on their own trauma. I think it's not right to insist that one person's interpretation is correct, and another person's is incorrect, when it comes to social theories. It's language. it can be very nuanced. It can mean different things depending on the mood. Written language is by design very limited. When it was just invented, it was used for notes, references, with an implication that the bulk of the information is in the mind. So in this case, depending on what's in the mind of a reader of Desmet's work. the interperation differs. This is what I have observed.
On my end, my life has not changed this way or the other because he wrote his book or came up with this theory. Crowd mentality is not a new concept at all. Alll the fighting about it iis highly suspicious though, I see a lot of unnecessary anxiety, and this is a sign that somebody is making it happen. I am not talking about Desmet, the Breggins, or Malone.
I and others believe it's important to sort this out and to understand: logic is the sword. It cuts through to the truth of concepts and how they relate. Through making distinctions we're then free to see intuitively what's happening.
Desmet maneuvers so that he can both say "manipulation happened" and also "there was no manipulation." But his theory is clearly "no manipulation." This is why he introduces the Sierpinski triangle in chapter 8: notice what the function of this figure is. This isn't "interpretation." This is simply what's presented.
I don't think that it is so clear. But again, we can disagree (and I appreciate the way we can debate honestly) but this subthread is about letting go of our preset ideas and praying for the truth to prevail whatever it is!!
Thank you, Jim. Importantly, the prayer that we need is for the truth, whatever it may be. Not to have our preset idea proven. We need specifically an honest, child-like prayer for the truth, made from a pure heart and with an open mind.
I don't know what the truth is. I have an opinion, I think I am right but I always keep an open mind. As far as Desmet being an apologist, I can only repeat what I said in other comments. While I cannot say "I know for sure he is not a spy" because I don't know for sure, I think the people reading his work react to it based on their own trauma. I think it's not right to insist that one person's interpretation is correct, and another person's is incorrect, when it comes to social theories. It's language. it can be very nuanced. It can mean different things depending on the mood. Written language is by design very limited. When it was just invented, it was used for notes, references, with an implication that the bulk of the information is in the mind. So in this case, depending on what's in the mind of a reader of Desmet's work. the interperation differs. This is what I have observed.
On my end, my life has not changed this way or the other because he wrote his book or came up with this theory. Crowd mentality is not a new concept at all. Alll the fighting about it iis highly suspicious though, I see a lot of unnecessary anxiety, and this is a sign that somebody is making it happen. I am not talking about Desmet, the Breggins, or Malone.
💬 Written language is by design very limited.
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🗨 A writer only begins a book. A reader finishes it. ~~Samuel Johnson aka Dr Johnson
This is such a great quote, thank you
Careful here, for you get more of what you rain praise on 😊 On a tangent but somewhat relevant ↓↓
🗨 Our mind is always stressing over little things. If you plant one little seed of doubt, your brain will create a whole garden of negativity.
Concepts unfold according to their meaning.
Definitions matter.
I and others believe it's important to sort this out and to understand: logic is the sword. It cuts through to the truth of concepts and how they relate. Through making distinctions we're then free to see intuitively what's happening.
Desmet maneuvers so that he can both say "manipulation happened" and also "there was no manipulation." But his theory is clearly "no manipulation." This is why he introduces the Sierpinski triangle in chapter 8: notice what the function of this figure is. This isn't "interpretation." This is simply what's presented.
I don't think that it is so clear. But again, we can disagree (and I appreciate the way we can debate honestly) but this subthread is about letting go of our preset ideas and praying for the truth to prevail whatever it is!!