Thank you both for coming together to show many others that our human minds still can work (: Seriously- thank you for being an inspiration to so many others.
thanks to both of you for inviting me to your summit meeting.
my favorite igor quote: the part about if you can see the tyrant in the mirror, that proves you're not the tyrant.
regarding people waking up, i think that seeing the face of the machine (your phrase, Tessa) is somewhat ironically more empowering than growing up loved as a child. tons of people who fell for the scam grew up very loved and grounded. i wouldn't wish abuse or living in a war zone or similar kind of horror on anyone but it seems to me that those who have experienced that level of cruelty are the fastest to recognize it .
As far as growing up, I think that people's paths vary but I think that the rare human beings who receive genuine love from wise, grounded parents, have an advantage of some sort. Very few people are lucky in this way in the modern world especially in the West, even though of course in most cases, our dear parents do their best. Buying stuff for kids is also wonderful but it's different from fully respecting their soul and teaching kids early on that their soul is an authority to be respected.
I think there really is no formula, human spirit finds a way no matter what.
agreed, stuff from the store is no substitute. you get lost in the supermarket real fast.
another thing you mentioned which made me laugh but is very important is when you said "i don't need a machine to imagine for me." (paraphrase)
trouble is that a lot of people do. generational programming from growing up with the magic rectangle. robs people of their interior lives. also homogenizes culture, dispossesses people of their heritage. harder to tell the russian kids from the americans these days.
can you invite margaret anna alice for one of these discussions? that would be epic
I tried virtual reality head gear with a demo program once. It transitioned through many scenes surprisingly realistic, traced my head and body movements, very immersive experience flying, sailing, walking through a park, a city street, all types of environments. Then it transitioned me to a scene set in a quiet mountain valley, beautiful, birds, breeze, sounds of nature. Far, far off in the distance a train whistle blew, quaint I thought, stayed in the scene observing and listening to all that was to take in. Train whistle blew again, a little louder, saw its smoke way off in the distance. Quaint. A critter popped into the scene, scurried along, how cute, nice detail the program added. Train whistle blew again, louder than before, I knew it was also going through the valley, could see smoke puffs, the train came into view, rounding a bend still a ways away, but no longer just a quaint sound in the distance, it was drawing nearer. Soon, I heard the loud train whistle and turned my head to the direction it seemed to come from. Surprised to see it coming directly towards me. When I looked down I was surprised to see the scene had me positioned in the middle of the train tracks. I tried to move off as the train drew near, but the program wouldn't let me. The program was designed to have me experience getting run over by a train without an escape. As the train was about to hit me I felt my body tense up. Even knowing it was just a computer simulation I puffed my chest out to meet the point of impact with all my strength. And then it transitioned to the next scene.
That was when I realized how powerful VR technology is. It could generate a physiological response from my body, brain chemicals released and flooded me as if I had faced a real life and death situation. If I had a weak heart or other impairment it had the potential to injure or kill me with that type of rush. Wonderful if you're a thrill chaser and dare devil. I've skydived and dared death chasing thrills in my life. It's a rush like no other. But for a computer program to do it alerted me to the hazards of the technology. With that type of power you must trust the programmer to not abuse your mind resulting in harming your body. Life/death trust.
And I'm aware of audio frequency wave headphone technology that targets specific regions of the brain that respond to a specific frequency, pleasure, pain, serenity, anxiety, you name it. Combine the VR visuals with targeted audio frequencies and the potential for harm is frightening. Sure, much good can also be derived from it. But it is a technology that we need to very careful with. It's playing with fire.
I said at the time I didn't think it would end well given man's history with technology that controls us, our minds and bodies. And that we'd be wise to put the brakes on it. That was in 2016. No brakes. And a much more malign government-Big Tech partnership has emerged. That values control. I still don't think it ends well.
Thank you SO much for the warning. VR technology will not be entertained or given a foothold in my household. It will be despatched immediately to the naughty corner with TV / Radio / newspapers.
If these people devoted 1/10th of the energy and capital they devote to subjugating humanity to, instead, improving the human condition, imagine how much better the world could be. But there's no profit in making things better for people.
ivermectin works for river blindness, caused by parasites.
it also works for covid.
so, I would draw a connection between these things, which is at some odds to Igors comments about the (lack of? if i understood right) possibility of parasites in the vaxxes. I think its quite plausible, the phrase sewer gel is one I use. Will relisten, I have wanted to be able to see Igor speak for a long time, due to how well he treats all the viewers of his site, as yours. best
We get to it closer to the end of the conversation. I just didn't want to interrupt the flow, and there was a lot to discuss.
Personally, I am trying and trying to get the doctors I know to look into the connection between 'long COVID'' and intracellular pathogens that are extremely prevalent in general population, including in the West. (20%-90% prevalence, depending on the country, by the most modest counts). When immune system gets weaker, opportunistic infections take hold. And symptoms match with ridiculous precision. Incidentally, this particular one is also on record causing pneumonia with "opaque" lungs. I pray for the day when my theory stops being too novel for doctors to look into with much rigor.
I wrote this big article for Dr. Mercola about it. Please let me know if you can't access, I'll find the link to the PDF.
Despite all the planning, the project didn't work very well. The riots in June 2020 were the biggest mistake. Many people opened their eyes when they saw governments LEADING THE UNMUZZLED RIOTS. When all corporations and media and doctors OFFICIALLY INSTRUCTED us that the riots were the CURE for the "virus", even more people opened their eyes.
You are right Tessa, when you say that brain scanning cannot read your thoughts. Because we don't even know our thoughts. Thoughts are a rambling conversation - for people who have a language that move, drift, stop, start, turn, without our conscious knowledge. We seldom remember what our thoughts were - even a few seconds ago. We forget our thoughts. You also discuss "enjoying reality". When we are in nature, or on a beach, our thoughts are free, unconstrained. Sometimes, we control our thoughts very carefully, reading a document or a situation carefully. Other times, we simply react. Is the reaction a "thought?" If a brain scan can read our thoughts, "what is a thought?"
Brain scans read emotions and when we are exposed to something, they can read "the effects on our emotions." But we barely know our emotions either. Our emotions are also a stream that is constantly changing. When we give up control, we stop feeling emotions. Manipulation of our emotions is a very old marketing tool - to sell ideas, and to sell things.
When combined with nudge technologies, this information can be used to manipulate large numbers of people by detecting and changing their emotions. Measuring the thoughts of an individual person is not necessary. It is effective and sufficient to use these tools in simple ways. For example, expose people to a sign that says "wash your hands" and measure the emotional response. If the desired emotional response (increased fear) is found in a sufficient percentage of people, the sign is an effective manipulation tool. If that effect wears off, the technology of reading emotions can be used to find a new driver, a new way to manipulate our emotions. In addition, when a small group is influenced by this technique - those people affect the people around them.
This was wonderful. Absolutely riveting and very educational on where we are right now. I was very interested in the way Bernays made smoking seem fashionable and a path to freedom. Here is the most wonderful, compelling dance routine where smoking is made to look like if you don't do it and smoke 60 a day, well, you're sooooooooo uncool...! https://youtu.be/rw_M-ai1I0k
I don’t know anything, but from the mystic’s writings the brain and the mind are not the same thing, and consciousness is not made by the brain (as materialists - physicalists say), and as we know from NDEs, when the brain is inactive people have conscious access to spiritual realms with great knowledge.
Brain. Mind & consciousness need an occult approach to be understood, materialistic view is inadequate. We are spiritual beings that have a material body and not the other way around.
The COVID - vaccines issue has been analyzed spiritually by Judith von Halle (spiritual science researcher).
“To punish others is like putting more wood in the fire. Every crime already has punishment in itself, and is more cruel and more just than the punishment created by people”.
Leo Tolstoy, “A Calendar of Wisdom” (Transl. by Peter Sekirin)
As always Tessa, great discussion. So true, telling others about things make us sound crazy, tinfoil hatters. It is so much easier to stay asleep, it's so cozy and familiar.
Tessa, we had an incredible conversation!
Thank you Igor!!! It was a ton of fun, I agree!
Outstanding interview, thank you to both of you.
Thank you both for coming together to show many others that our human minds still can work (: Seriously- thank you for being an inspiration to so many others.
Thank you, Roman!!
thanks to both of you for inviting me to your summit meeting.
my favorite igor quote: the part about if you can see the tyrant in the mirror, that proves you're not the tyrant.
regarding people waking up, i think that seeing the face of the machine (your phrase, Tessa) is somewhat ironically more empowering than growing up loved as a child. tons of people who fell for the scam grew up very loved and grounded. i wouldn't wish abuse or living in a war zone or similar kind of horror on anyone but it seems to me that those who have experienced that level of cruelty are the fastest to recognize it .
Thank you!! Yes, that was an astute observation by Igor!! And altogether, it was just such a fun conversation to have, Igor is great.
And doh! I forgot to include the link to the "Tyrant in the Mirror" story in the article. Here https://tessa.substack.com/p/tyrant-in-the-mirror
As far as growing up, I think that people's paths vary but I think that the rare human beings who receive genuine love from wise, grounded parents, have an advantage of some sort. Very few people are lucky in this way in the modern world especially in the West, even though of course in most cases, our dear parents do their best. Buying stuff for kids is also wonderful but it's different from fully respecting their soul and teaching kids early on that their soul is an authority to be respected.
I think there really is no formula, human spirit finds a way no matter what.
agreed, stuff from the store is no substitute. you get lost in the supermarket real fast.
another thing you mentioned which made me laugh but is very important is when you said "i don't need a machine to imagine for me." (paraphrase)
trouble is that a lot of people do. generational programming from growing up with the magic rectangle. robs people of their interior lives. also homogenizes culture, dispossesses people of their heritage. harder to tell the russian kids from the americans these days.
can you invite margaret anna alice for one of these discussions? that would be epic
Great conversation, very enjoyable!
I tried virtual reality head gear with a demo program once. It transitioned through many scenes surprisingly realistic, traced my head and body movements, very immersive experience flying, sailing, walking through a park, a city street, all types of environments. Then it transitioned me to a scene set in a quiet mountain valley, beautiful, birds, breeze, sounds of nature. Far, far off in the distance a train whistle blew, quaint I thought, stayed in the scene observing and listening to all that was to take in. Train whistle blew again, a little louder, saw its smoke way off in the distance. Quaint. A critter popped into the scene, scurried along, how cute, nice detail the program added. Train whistle blew again, louder than before, I knew it was also going through the valley, could see smoke puffs, the train came into view, rounding a bend still a ways away, but no longer just a quaint sound in the distance, it was drawing nearer. Soon, I heard the loud train whistle and turned my head to the direction it seemed to come from. Surprised to see it coming directly towards me. When I looked down I was surprised to see the scene had me positioned in the middle of the train tracks. I tried to move off as the train drew near, but the program wouldn't let me. The program was designed to have me experience getting run over by a train without an escape. As the train was about to hit me I felt my body tense up. Even knowing it was just a computer simulation I puffed my chest out to meet the point of impact with all my strength. And then it transitioned to the next scene.
That was when I realized how powerful VR technology is. It could generate a physiological response from my body, brain chemicals released and flooded me as if I had faced a real life and death situation. If I had a weak heart or other impairment it had the potential to injure or kill me with that type of rush. Wonderful if you're a thrill chaser and dare devil. I've skydived and dared death chasing thrills in my life. It's a rush like no other. But for a computer program to do it alerted me to the hazards of the technology. With that type of power you must trust the programmer to not abuse your mind resulting in harming your body. Life/death trust.
And I'm aware of audio frequency wave headphone technology that targets specific regions of the brain that respond to a specific frequency, pleasure, pain, serenity, anxiety, you name it. Combine the VR visuals with targeted audio frequencies and the potential for harm is frightening. Sure, much good can also be derived from it. But it is a technology that we need to very careful with. It's playing with fire.
I said at the time I didn't think it would end well given man's history with technology that controls us, our minds and bodies. And that we'd be wise to put the brakes on it. That was in 2016. No brakes. And a much more malign government-Big Tech partnership has emerged. That values control. I still don't think it ends well.
Thank you SO much for the warning. VR technology will not be entertained or given a foothold in my household. It will be despatched immediately to the naughty corner with TV / Radio / newspapers.
Thank you both ever so much, this was such a wonderful and unexpected treat! 🙏🏻💛
Thank you, Plum!! And Igor. :)
If these people devoted 1/10th of the energy and capital they devote to subjugating humanity to, instead, improving the human condition, imagine how much better the world could be. But there's no profit in making things better for people.
That, for sure. Oh rather, if they just buggered off, that would be huge. :) But it's not where they are coming from...
ivermectin works for river blindness, caused by parasites.
it also works for covid.
so, I would draw a connection between these things, which is at some odds to Igors comments about the (lack of? if i understood right) possibility of parasites in the vaxxes. I think its quite plausible, the phrase sewer gel is one I use. Will relisten, I have wanted to be able to see Igor speak for a long time, due to how well he treats all the viewers of his site, as yours. best
We get to it closer to the end of the conversation. I just didn't want to interrupt the flow, and there was a lot to discuss.
Personally, I am trying and trying to get the doctors I know to look into the connection between 'long COVID'' and intracellular pathogens that are extremely prevalent in general population, including in the West. (20%-90% prevalence, depending on the country, by the most modest counts). When immune system gets weaker, opportunistic infections take hold. And symptoms match with ridiculous precision. Incidentally, this particular one is also on record causing pneumonia with "opaque" lungs. I pray for the day when my theory stops being too novel for doctors to look into with much rigor.
I wrote this big article for Dr. Mercola about it. Please let me know if you can't access, I'll find the link to the PDF.
https://takecontrol.substack.com/p/chronic-active-toxoplasmosis
It also works for all kinds of viruses, been used to cure ag animals from viral-caused diseases in China and elsewhere.
Despite all the planning, the project didn't work very well. The riots in June 2020 were the biggest mistake. Many people opened their eyes when they saw governments LEADING THE UNMUZZLED RIOTS. When all corporations and media and doctors OFFICIALLY INSTRUCTED us that the riots were the CURE for the "virus", even more people opened their eyes.
I think they are banking (!!!) on the CBDCs!! And yes, they are limping along, but with total determination, driven by their addiction to power!
love me some nuance
Thank you Alon, and nuance is where I live :)
Thank you Tessa. Another blossom opens.
You are right Tessa, when you say that brain scanning cannot read your thoughts. Because we don't even know our thoughts. Thoughts are a rambling conversation - for people who have a language that move, drift, stop, start, turn, without our conscious knowledge. We seldom remember what our thoughts were - even a few seconds ago. We forget our thoughts. You also discuss "enjoying reality". When we are in nature, or on a beach, our thoughts are free, unconstrained. Sometimes, we control our thoughts very carefully, reading a document or a situation carefully. Other times, we simply react. Is the reaction a "thought?" If a brain scan can read our thoughts, "what is a thought?"
Brain scans read emotions and when we are exposed to something, they can read "the effects on our emotions." But we barely know our emotions either. Our emotions are also a stream that is constantly changing. When we give up control, we stop feeling emotions. Manipulation of our emotions is a very old marketing tool - to sell ideas, and to sell things.
When combined with nudge technologies, this information can be used to manipulate large numbers of people by detecting and changing their emotions. Measuring the thoughts of an individual person is not necessary. It is effective and sufficient to use these tools in simple ways. For example, expose people to a sign that says "wash your hands" and measure the emotional response. If the desired emotional response (increased fear) is found in a sufficient percentage of people, the sign is an effective manipulation tool. If that effect wears off, the technology of reading emotions can be used to find a new driver, a new way to manipulate our emotions. In addition, when a small group is influenced by this technique - those people affect the people around them.
When computer games predict the dystopian future... or was it the other way around?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgYJd2Kn9VY&t=9560s
This gives a new meaning to "...and you will be happy" - does it not?
Thanks for this ...and good news.... https://gettr.com/post/p2b6s6v9d81
This was wonderful. Absolutely riveting and very educational on where we are right now. I was very interested in the way Bernays made smoking seem fashionable and a path to freedom. Here is the most wonderful, compelling dance routine where smoking is made to look like if you don't do it and smoke 60 a day, well, you're sooooooooo uncool...! https://youtu.be/rw_M-ai1I0k
Thank you, Paul!! And wow, what a compilation! Stunning
Thank you Tessa
I don’t know anything, but from the mystic’s writings the brain and the mind are not the same thing, and consciousness is not made by the brain (as materialists - physicalists say), and as we know from NDEs, when the brain is inactive people have conscious access to spiritual realms with great knowledge.
Brain. Mind & consciousness need an occult approach to be understood, materialistic view is inadequate. We are spiritual beings that have a material body and not the other way around.
The COVID - vaccines issue has been analyzed spiritually by Judith von Halle (spiritual science researcher).
https://southerncrossreview.org/112/jvh-interview.html
“To punish others is like putting more wood in the fire. Every crime already has punishment in itself, and is more cruel and more just than the punishment created by people”.
Leo Tolstoy, “A Calendar of Wisdom” (Transl. by Peter Sekirin)
As always Tessa, great discussion. So true, telling others about things make us sound crazy, tinfoil hatters. It is so much easier to stay asleep, it's so cozy and familiar.
Thank you, alwayscurious!! And yes :)
I like Igor's latest article, spot on. We passed the ultimate test. We showed the predators that we are not idiots.
But sorry... These idiots that run things are in no way sane.
The idea of reading memories or feelings is still just a theory. They tried and tried and couldn't find what makes us aware.
And yet we're gonna believe that they're almost there with these brain chips that failed animal testing?
Too much sci Fi for some people. I admit, I liked sci Fi but it's fucking fantasy, not our reality.