in large part, the "pathogens don't exist" crowd is an op. like "there's no such thing as nuclear fission," which ignores the amount of toxic radionucleides found in the teeth of children born in years when there were atom bomb tests
this is a classic both-and situation. is terrain important? absolutely. can it be invaded if it's not properly defended? of course. are there other influences - energetic, environmental, maybe genetic - at play? let's look into those too. anybody who would try to steer you into a simple binary is leading you astray
Agreed, a lot of "either / or" angles are initiated by the people with not-so-good intentions, and later sadly picked up by some sincere people. Not every militant dogmatic is "fake opposition" but many likely are "controlled," not in the sense that they knowingly do the bidding of the people with not-so-good intentions but in the sense that they are under an influence and don't even know it. So when this anxious, angry energy shows up, it is usually a sign of manipulation.
Groan. You are misrepresenting what most people are saying about nuclear fission. People like myself concede nuclear fission is real. We can observe it in nature. For example, we can see Uranium fissioning in nature.
However, what we don't concede is the existence of nuclear fission bombs or fusion bombs. Why? Because by and large the enormous amount of energy supposedly released by a nuclear bomb derives from the equation E=MC2, where E = energy, M = mass, and C = the speed of light.
So if this equation can be shown to be fictitious then all calculations claiming enormous energy yields from nuclear weapons can be shown to be wrong. [ I should add here that there are physicists who derived this equation from classical mechanics and Galilean relativity which leads to paradoxical results - ie the yield of an atomic weapon would depend on which frame of reference the observer was to be found as C is no longer constant. In essence, the equation becomes meaningless - ref 'Relativity from Lorentz to Einstein - A guide for beginners, Perplexed and Experimental Scientists, by Alberto Palazzi, page 220].
As it happens Special Relativity, from where this equation derives, is a fantasy just like General Relativity. I suggest you read 'Science at the Crossroads' by Herbert Dingle to understand why. He was a leading proponent of SR. He knew all of the leading scientists of the day and he was a distinguished physicist himself. He wrote textbooks on the subject that were considered seminal on the subject matter. Yet one day he woke up and realized just how flawed the theory is. You need to read the book to understand why.
Einstein simply decreed the speed of light is constant in a vacuum. He didn't prove it. He did so for two reasons
1. To preserve the Maxwell equations of electromagnetic wave propagation that required C to be a constant
2. To account for the null result of the Michelson-Morley series of experiments that failed to detect the ether wind as the Earth supposedly orbits the sun at the supposed incredible speed of 30 Km/second.
So essentially he saved both of the above by simply stating by diktat that C is constant in every frame of reference. So you cannot measure the Earth's speed around the Sun using an interferometer to measure the difference between two orthogonal light beams.
Another consequence of this baloney of course is the disappearance of the Ether which is why we end up with more and more nonsense - SR, GR, and Quantum Mechanics leading to String theory, multiple universes, black holes, white holes, wormholes, dark matter, dark energy etc, etc. All of these things are mathematical abstractions and do not exist.
Then we have this
"The microbial bandits started taking over cells, destroying them, stealing, breeding, and feasting like the classic occupying thieves. When the cells of John Doe’s body wanted food, they had no good food because the parasites had eaten the good food—and so John’s cells were left with toxic scraps, at best. Furthermore, the bandits infiltrated (literally) some of the immune cells, and the infiltrated immune cells started helping the bandits proliferate as opposed to fighting for John Doe."
There is no evidence that any microorganisms invade cells and then start breeding. This is all fantasy once more. The viral model is simply made up. The problem with genetics and virology is that the data is collected outside of the body in vitro. What happens in the body is incredibly difficult to investigate because we do not possess the technology to observe cell behavior in real-time. A simpleton can understand why you cannot derive inferences from samples that you have curated in a petri dish. In all cases not only are toxic chemicals added to them beforehand but they are also spun through centrifuges operating at thousands of revolutions per second. Think about that for a minute.
People like myself who know genetics and virology are Rockefeller-inspired cargo cult sciences dispute the notion that bacteria and viruses invade cells and replicate. This is a very specific claim. There is no evidence to support the idea of the replication of deadly pathogens within a cell. There is also no evidence for the existence of an immune system or antibodies. These are terms used by non-scientists who should stick to art.
Real science is precise. It thrives off experimentation.
Suggested reading
"The most comprehensive collection of studies and articles attesting the non-contagiousness of polio."
"Einstein's relativity work is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles, and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists.”
I don't think it is even necessary to poke holes in relativity (although I agree that it is highly questionable and very likely fiction) to question the existence of nuclear bombs. We know what happens when too much fissile material is in one place - it heats up and melts down. We have observed this on numerous occasions now.
What it doesn't do, or at least no-one has ever explained how, is explode.
By way of analogy, we can set fire to wood. It burns nicely and keeps us warm. But it does not explode. We are told that, by a super secret and fiendishly complex process, fissile uranium can be concentrated to "weapons grade" and then turned into a bomb. The problem is that we are told this by a bunch of pathological liars, who have both politicked extensively and profited handsomely on the basis of this particular narrative. So why should we believe them?
As much as I am pleased with the fact that I was able to understand your beautifully articulated response, the conundrum is that my ability to understand a potion of it makes me realise that I am still just a simpleton.
Looking forward to reading your recommended publications in the (hopefully) not too distant future.
@109 Who is paid to corral what? Can you please express yourself with a bit more clarity? What exactly are you trying to do, make people fight? "Tell me traitor"? :) Please see my interview with Celia re: "degradation as content." I am genuinely not interested in that, not even a little bit. Hope you understand!
Meanwhile, while you theorists squabble, people are dying of some terrible disease. Perhaps you could cease the squabbling and apply your brain power to saving the lives of the bulk of humanity now facing genocide from slow creeping biological warfare on the human race. Not worthy of you? Saving humanity from those seeking to kill us?
I had one say that I had to embrace the Pathogen Deniers Club to end the Covid totalitarianism. I strongly disagreed.
The Big Lie was that everyone was a potential carrier of the Plague of the Century. Assuming there was a real sickness, fewer than 1 in 1000 died (having their lungs blown out and/or Fauci's drugs causing organ failure shouldn't count.) Till 2020 it was understood that respiratory illnesses were NOT spread by the asymptomatic.
2020 was about denying all medical science in the centuries before and how real epidemics were handled in the past. So much gas lighting!
Did the peasants "hunker down" in their huts for months on end, as the Black Death ravaged Europe? If they had, it's likely no one would have survived since the famine would finish whoever the plague left.
I don't think the "no virus" people are maintaining that there aren't any pathogens in existence. From my reading, they maintain only that "viruses' don't exist. It's an important distinction. From what I can see, the no-virus people are less combative than the germ-theory people, since the no-virus folks don't have much to lose (other than their medical licenses, income, jobs, reputation), whereas the germ-theory (and specifically virologists) have a lot to lose if virology turns out to be a fraudulent discipline. I do agree, though, that, much like other issues on which we are encouraged by media and others to fight each other over, it would be more helpful if the two "sides" could work more closely together. I suppose that's true of all of us.
I have heard different opinions expressed, including a militant opinion that contagion as such is a psyop, which I think is a rather inaccurate opinion and potentially super unhelpful, and that's regardless of what one thinks about viruses. People can and do get sick from molds, parasites, bacteria, at the very least, and when people need help, it is important to address both the "terrain" and the "germs," this has been my observation. But regardless of what each of thinks about any matter of science, it is still possible to treat each other with respect! Hugs!
I'm not convinced that this - "steer you into a simple binary" is what is ocurring though.
Obviously I haven't read every article by every proponent of either theory - but what I see is two camps which I would characterize as follows.
Camp A - viruses. This is the mainstream narrative which has dominated public discourse for the last forty years or so (as an aside - when I was at high school in the early 80s, viruses were still thought of - at least by my biology teacher - as merely a questionable hypothesis). People in this camp tend to be dogmatic and insist that their theory is correct.
Camp B - viruses are BS. This is the counter narrative which asserts that there is very little evidence for the virus hypothesis, and importantly that
(a) experiments which should have provided evidence have all failed
(b) viruses, if they really existed, should be easy to prove. The fact that no such proof exists is therefore strong evidence against viruses.
This camp often, to one degree or another, suggests that terrain theory is a possible alternative explanation but I have not - in general - found that they insist on this. What they do insist on is merely that the evidence for the existence of viruses is absent - which seems - at least to me - to be true. The consequence of this is that "experts" who insist that virus theory is correct are (very) likely frauds and liars.
Casual followers of the debate - as opposed to experts - can be forgiven for being on the fence. I have to forgive them because this was my position for some time before I invested the time and energy to look into the arguments more deeply.
I land somewhere in the middle on this whole Germ and Terrain thing. (It sounds like you do as well Tessa). Heaven knows there's *something* going on out there. People didn't used to get sick the way they do now, but can we discount the insane amount of chemicals in the food, water, and medicines that people are taking? Can we discount the EMF and other radiation that we are being bathed in daily? I always say we should be looking at *everything* and not demanding that one "side" is the only side. It's this kind of thinking that has put us right where they want us... fighting with one another instead of pointing our fingers at the ones meddling with our food, medicine, air, and climate. We *must* start coming together and having rational discussions about all of this stuff and we should be doing the *real* science necessary to find out what the hell is going on. Thanks for always being on the front lines of all of this stuff Tessa!
"A lot of people are struggling with their health and needing help. In order to solve problems effectively, it is helpful to have an open mind. For instance, I’ve been looking into fungal and parasitic infections wreaking havoc in the West. It’s a serious problem...."
Let me help....Oil of Oregano kills every fungus known to man. Period. Take it orally by capsule, drops or as a tea. Kills candida. It is universal in healing. Topically, internally and inhaled in a humidifier. It works. If taking for a prolong period, take probiotics. It will wipe out all gut flora.
Thank you, Jean-Baptiste! Indeed, oil of oregano is untifungal and antiparasitic, I am learning about herbs and my understanding is that it needs to be used carefully, and it is not for everyone / all occasions. There is a number of oils and herbs that are similar in action but I think for each person and each occasion, the "recipe" is a little different. That said, thank you, it is very good to think those things through!
Yeah. Oil of oregano is a rough customer. It has to be taken diluted [olive oil] if pure and only about a teaspoon and a half daily in drops. Drink plenty of water and take the probiotics. It works. I put few drops in my tea daily.
Thank you, yes, taking it undiluted is a recipe for great suffering, I don't think it's possible. I think even diluted it's not for everyone and not for all occasions, but it is definitely a potent thing! xo
Yes, each form of non-druggist medicine is a complex art and science in its own right. You can't just throw something at something and hope it hits. We have an understanding that every single intervention causes a downstream cascade of reactions that may or may not end up in a healthy place if we trigger the wrong downstream cascade. But the reality is that holistic treatments are also failing now with long covid and long vax because we are no longer dealing with "natural" diseases which respond to "natural" cures. We are dealing with man-made cross-domain monstrosities which nothing in nature is designed to address. In the same way that some drugs have been "re-purposed" to address "covid", we also have to "re-purpose" natural therapeutics and combine them into novel protocols designed to deal with each component of the cross-domain invader. Currently, we are following the lead of the re-purposed drugs, which are all anti-parasitics, and so experimenting with developing strong and complex anti-parasitic protocols designed to deal with each aspect of what I am calling "the frankenbugs".
Jean-Baptiste, also thank you for mentioning that oregano oil suppresses "good" gut flora as well. I knew it was not good for all occasions but I didn't know why, and now I have a theory. I did a quick search and it seems like it may be not so great for bifidobacteria. I had no idea! So thank you
You can just eat it... in salad and in all your cooked food. I'm sure you can find directions somewhere on the internet about how to distill the oil. Try 'how to make oregano essential oil' and keep scrolling past the sponsored stuff....
But you don’t want to wipe out all gut flora. You want to help your body return to a state of balance, harmony. If the tools are there, nutrients, minerals ect. This will happen without any knowing on the person’s part. When symptoms arise, your body is telling you that perhaps something, or many somethings are missing. Bacteria do not cause disease. They are the effect of disease. They are called upon to clean up dead tissue. Why would you kill them. I don’t believe in the concept of bad ants good bacteria. We know bacteria are pleomorphic. Could it be that bacteria change shape and do what needs being done? Then go back to there normal state?
You are absolutely correct. This is why I recommend taking heavy probiotics while using it regularly. Along with plenty of fermented foods. It has to "cycled" days on and off for most. I'm hardcore I go all in. Haven't been to a doctor in 25 years except for stiches.
As far as bacteria, some of them can be pathogenic, like mycoplasmas, for example. Dr. Garth Nicolson has done an in-depth look into mycoplasma contamination of vaccines, and I believe his conclusion is close to reality.
Sweet wormwood is good, I like it, and thank you for mentioning it! Again, I think that there is no universal recipe, it is up to the person to figure out what works for them. Some of these herbs are supposed to do away with pathogens, some, from what I understand, make them weaker but keep them alive, so it depends on the person, on the case, etc. The world remains complex! :)
In the case of John Doe, his problem is intracellular parasites, who are known to try wreaking tremendous havoc and cause a wide range of problems. Oregano is reported to have antiparasitic properties but it seems like it also depletes bifidobacteria, and that to me is noy great as robust biidobacteria are good for us, they play a very big role in healthy immunity. I am actually very curious about this conversation, I was suspicious about high concentration oregano for some time, and thanks to Jean-baptiste, I looked into its interaction with bifidobacteria, and now I know why I have had reservations about it despite its proven antifungal / antimicrobial qualities.
Generally speaking, limiting sugar and eliminating processed sugar seems to have universal benefits, with a disclaimer that each case is different, etc. Thyme essential oil may be good (diluted!!!!) Not medical advice, a philosophical though at always!
Based on a quick look, it is one of the oils that does not deplete bifido, or at least not as much as many other oils (I looked at essential oils primarily). There is a number of essential oils that impactn gram-negative bateria stronger than they impact gram-positive bacteria. Bifido is gram-positive.
I'll have to try few drops of thyme essential oil mixed with olive oil. I struggle with high inflammation levels. Turmeric and other seasonings associated with southern Asia seem to help. Oregano oil might help me as a topical infusion. I understand that you can make tea out of thyme and oregano too. I also smell lavender oil to boost my mood.
i hope you find a way to heal yourself the soonest! My personal choice is thyme over oregano, it looks like oregano may hit bifidobacteria, and bifodo are very good for us (everyone is different, I can only speak of personal choices!) I love turmeric!
I have a mix for my morning tea. Green tea as a base. A few drops of Black seed oil, tumeric oil, oregano oil, coconut oil and cinnamon to give it body. Don't get sick. Then I go crazy on coffee.................
Organic garlic (just peel the bulb, don’t peel each clove & lightly bruise each clove) fermented in organic honey - about 4 weeks after the fermentation bubbling stops start eating 1 a day. 2-3 a couple of times a day when you feel something a little out of whack.
See Tessa's comment. What I would do ?What I have done. I go hard with oil of oregano, 1-2 tablespoons in drops with alot of water throughout the day, stopping around 3pm. No white sugar, Honey only. At bedtime heavy probiotics with digestive enzymes and 2 sodium bicarbonate tablets (Rugby brand). Activated charcoal at this time works well too. Water. It usually takes about 7 days or so for me so expel the toxins. I just make sure when I do to take plenty of probiotics, eat plenty of fermented foods, drink fermented keefer and such. This is what "I" do.
See Tessa, that’s the problem with you. Always trying to take a wholistic approach. Always batting those laser pointers away. Always trying to switch on the room lights. Don’t you know cockroaches don’t like light. Omg. Light. That’s terrain. Argh.
Hi, I am full on terrain because that just makes more sense, I read books and follow ViroLIEgy and Sam and Mark Baily....BUT I am fully behind you, because we have a war to win and it is bad if we fight the people on the same side. Even if I don't fully agree with everyone on everything, does NOT mean they are wrong (I could be wrong!!). We learn from each other, and so we grow.... We should stand together and win the fight!! Then we can sit together in love, like you say, and talk about our differences. It is also true that the real truth is that there are truth and value on both sides and we need to bring that together to find the actual reality....... Bless you for being you and a instrument of peace and love....I admire you!!!!!!
The either-or paradigm is obviously destructive to health when you look at long term outcomes, QoL and longevity. But the governments that implemented publicly funded health care stick to the germ only paradigm and punish the medics that don't. The public generally wants the publicly funded care with the free drugs, and doesn't trust the integrative one that isn't funded or government-approved and regulated. Unfunded inclusive care like orthomolecular nutriceuticals, homeopathy, bodywork, herbal and frequency treatment gets trashed like crazy in the media and entertainment industry - just watch a couple episodes of House and you'll see what I mean. But the never-well patients that choose to get the unregulated no-drug, no-lab-test, terrain-only care at their own expense, as an alternative to their narrow-minded, miseducated, won't-listen, funded doctor who just wants them jabbed, mammogrammed, and on statins, metformin and hypertension drugs, are often not made better either. We need to consider both - Plus the spiritual aspect. But how you gonna regulate and fund Love in health care?
Finally, someone who has the creative mind to see the most sensible perspective of health / illness and the human bodymind. We need to toss to the scap heap the mechanistic worldview in science and medicine and wakeup to what that perspective is and has been doing to us at least since germ theory was monopolized by the Rockefellers et al and more reasonable approaches trashed my the Rockeftller money.
You are one stellar human being and doctor, Brother John! What do you think about that fibrin / interferon-gamma paper? I found it very interesting, I have thought of fibrin deposits as a reaction to injury more or less, and it seems like a part of it is the body's way to prevent a cytokine overreaction?
It's an odd paper, because everybody knows that fibrin is part of blood clots, and that is how we all think of it. If you keep blood from clotting you bleed out, including from infections.
It seemed to me that they had to work pretty hard to not know what fibrin does, then prevent it from working, then present their findings as something-new.
You are right on both counts (that it's an old paper and that the role of fibrin in generally known. I was curious about the part of fibrin deposits in the liver. Is warfarin supposed to have an influence on all fibrin, or just blood coagulation? I don't know anything about it.
Blood coagulation, hardened clots and arterial plaques all involve different treatment modes.
Heparin, a blood-thinner, helps prevent clots, but does not dissolve clots.
Fibrinolytics, like Streptokinase may dissolve fresh clots, for instance in treating a fresh and developing heart attack, by dissolving the clot to open the artery. This is now done with fresh and forming ischemic strokes, also.
Hardened plaques in arteries are different still. It is rare that treatments reduce them in a person over a year or more, and quite variable between patients. They may be treated surgically, as in coronary arterial bypass grafting.
I am looking into theoretical aspects of serrapeptase, I like its practical aspects but I always like to understand the mechanism, etc. It is reported to dissolve clots and plaque due to its affinity to non-living protein. I am in the middle of writing an article about it, iI find it to be fascinating.
Nattokinase from a fermented soy food, Natto, is something that can, at high doses, start to reverse coronary artery plaques in about 40% of people at the higher cardiac doses, a little under 12,000 fibrinolytic units per day. Diet and exercise changes probably matter a lot, avoiding fatty and smoked meats and processed foods, eating a lot of fresh vegetables, and exercising daily.
Sylvie, I just properly read this part of the thread. John is a stunningly beautiful human being who has helped many, many people. I am honored to call him a friend!
Thank you, Tessa, for your upholding the cause of love and peace. "Getting off each other's throats" seems to be a recurring theme, I've read three appeals of this kind on three different blogs in two days. I for one don't really get why every one of us needs to instantly have an opinion formed on every subject! If I am not a French scholar and speak no French, should I have an opinion on whether this or that French phrase is correct?
Debate ideas, don't insult each other... is that too much to ask? Of course it is.
Correct diagnosis and prognosis means Mr John Doe lives.
Incorrect diagnosis and prognosis means Mr John Doe dies suddenly or slowly.
Finding workable technique to dissolve white clots means you live. If people see, listen and apply knowledge as wisdom, its a good thing.
Fibrin, amyloid, amyloidosis, doesn't leave perfect rubbery mold castings of the vasculature. Actuators from the Biomedical nanotechnology department does.
Its either correct or incorrect. It just is. Nothing to do with being corrector.
I don't seem to be the marrying type. I'm not married to any of the ideas thrown around, though I may get attached to some ideas for a period of time. I've become skeptical of everything. Many people in the 'movement' seem to become more interested in being personally recognized as 'truth-finders' and then into monetizing their wonderfulness.
I don't see validity in any 'one size fits all' for any drug, herb, essential oil, specific of any healing modality etc. being safe and effective for every body.
The fibrin as a protectant, a part of a healing process idea is fascinating.
Nice analysis of how the ideologues tend to pigeonhole themselves. Complex systems require complex understandings. There is nothing so simple that it will resist the human interest to oversimplify, and nothing so complex that humans will not complicate them unnecessarily. The truth is a slippery affair: the tighter you grasp on to it, the more it escapes you.
I read about terrain theory in 1991. I incorporated it into my approach. I use both, and if one works better than the other, i lean into it. you do not have to choose because some Ijeet says so. both. it's more fun. why limit yourself like that? guh.
it's weird how people get dogmatic about the strangest things. i wonder if they learned this from religion, this harmful and divisive exclusivism. A tremendous waste of energy. The goal is to get people well, , what works is the way.
in large part, the "pathogens don't exist" crowd is an op. like "there's no such thing as nuclear fission," which ignores the amount of toxic radionucleides found in the teeth of children born in years when there were atom bomb tests
this is a classic both-and situation. is terrain important? absolutely. can it be invaded if it's not properly defended? of course. are there other influences - energetic, environmental, maybe genetic - at play? let's look into those too. anybody who would try to steer you into a simple binary is leading you astray
Agreed, a lot of "either / or" angles are initiated by the people with not-so-good intentions, and later sadly picked up by some sincere people. Not every militant dogmatic is "fake opposition" but many likely are "controlled," not in the sense that they knowingly do the bidding of the people with not-so-good intentions but in the sense that they are under an influence and don't even know it. So when this anxious, angry energy shows up, it is usually a sign of manipulation.
Groan. You are misrepresenting what most people are saying about nuclear fission. People like myself concede nuclear fission is real. We can observe it in nature. For example, we can see Uranium fissioning in nature.
However, what we don't concede is the existence of nuclear fission bombs or fusion bombs. Why? Because by and large the enormous amount of energy supposedly released by a nuclear bomb derives from the equation E=MC2, where E = energy, M = mass, and C = the speed of light.
So if this equation can be shown to be fictitious then all calculations claiming enormous energy yields from nuclear weapons can be shown to be wrong. [ I should add here that there are physicists who derived this equation from classical mechanics and Galilean relativity which leads to paradoxical results - ie the yield of an atomic weapon would depend on which frame of reference the observer was to be found as C is no longer constant. In essence, the equation becomes meaningless - ref 'Relativity from Lorentz to Einstein - A guide for beginners, Perplexed and Experimental Scientists, by Alberto Palazzi, page 220].
As it happens Special Relativity, from where this equation derives, is a fantasy just like General Relativity. I suggest you read 'Science at the Crossroads' by Herbert Dingle to understand why. He was a leading proponent of SR. He knew all of the leading scientists of the day and he was a distinguished physicist himself. He wrote textbooks on the subject that were considered seminal on the subject matter. Yet one day he woke up and realized just how flawed the theory is. You need to read the book to understand why.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Science-at-Crossroads-Herbert-Dingle/dp/8897527442/
Einstein simply decreed the speed of light is constant in a vacuum. He didn't prove it. He did so for two reasons
1. To preserve the Maxwell equations of electromagnetic wave propagation that required C to be a constant
2. To account for the null result of the Michelson-Morley series of experiments that failed to detect the ether wind as the Earth supposedly orbits the sun at the supposed incredible speed of 30 Km/second.
So essentially he saved both of the above by simply stating by diktat that C is constant in every frame of reference. So you cannot measure the Earth's speed around the Sun using an interferometer to measure the difference between two orthogonal light beams.
Another consequence of this baloney of course is the disappearance of the Ether which is why we end up with more and more nonsense - SR, GR, and Quantum Mechanics leading to String theory, multiple universes, black holes, white holes, wormholes, dark matter, dark energy etc, etc. All of these things are mathematical abstractions and do not exist.
Then we have this
"The microbial bandits started taking over cells, destroying them, stealing, breeding, and feasting like the classic occupying thieves. When the cells of John Doe’s body wanted food, they had no good food because the parasites had eaten the good food—and so John’s cells were left with toxic scraps, at best. Furthermore, the bandits infiltrated (literally) some of the immune cells, and the infiltrated immune cells started helping the bandits proliferate as opposed to fighting for John Doe."
There is no evidence that any microorganisms invade cells and then start breeding. This is all fantasy once more. The viral model is simply made up. The problem with genetics and virology is that the data is collected outside of the body in vitro. What happens in the body is incredibly difficult to investigate because we do not possess the technology to observe cell behavior in real-time. A simpleton can understand why you cannot derive inferences from samples that you have curated in a petri dish. In all cases not only are toxic chemicals added to them beforehand but they are also spun through centrifuges operating at thousands of revolutions per second. Think about that for a minute.
People like myself who know genetics and virology are Rockefeller-inspired cargo cult sciences dispute the notion that bacteria and viruses invade cells and replicate. This is a very specific claim. There is no evidence to support the idea of the replication of deadly pathogens within a cell. There is also no evidence for the existence of an immune system or antibodies. These are terms used by non-scientists who should stick to art.
Real science is precise. It thrives off experimentation.
Suggested reading
"The most comprehensive collection of studies and articles attesting the non-contagiousness of polio."
https://aldhissla.substack.com/p/the-case-against-polio-contagion
I finish with a quote from Nikolas Tesla
"Einstein's relativity work is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles, and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists.”
Who am I to argue with a real genius?
Now there's a real comment :-)
I don't think it is even necessary to poke holes in relativity (although I agree that it is highly questionable and very likely fiction) to question the existence of nuclear bombs. We know what happens when too much fissile material is in one place - it heats up and melts down. We have observed this on numerous occasions now.
What it doesn't do, or at least no-one has ever explained how, is explode.
By way of analogy, we can set fire to wood. It burns nicely and keeps us warm. But it does not explode. We are told that, by a super secret and fiendishly complex process, fissile uranium can be concentrated to "weapons grade" and then turned into a bomb. The problem is that we are told this by a bunch of pathological liars, who have both politicked extensively and profited handsomely on the basis of this particular narrative. So why should we believe them?
As much as I am pleased with the fact that I was able to understand your beautifully articulated response, the conundrum is that my ability to understand a potion of it makes me realise that I am still just a simpleton.
Looking forward to reading your recommended publications in the (hopefully) not too distant future.
Good stuff-
What happened to the actual Joe Mercola andis this version of Tessa Lena genuine ly human...
Whole post is a narrative push easily seen when one has been away for a while...
What has happened to Joe, Tessa?
Paid to corral much ?
@109 Who is paid to corral what? Can you please express yourself with a bit more clarity? What exactly are you trying to do, make people fight? "Tell me traitor"? :) Please see my interview with Celia re: "degradation as content." I am genuinely not interested in that, not even a little bit. Hope you understand!
Meanwhile, while you theorists squabble, people are dying of some terrible disease. Perhaps you could cease the squabbling and apply your brain power to saving the lives of the bulk of humanity now facing genocide from slow creeping biological warfare on the human race. Not worthy of you? Saving humanity from those seeking to kill us?
Doing what is accused of an "others" never actually feels good afterward
I had one say that I had to embrace the Pathogen Deniers Club to end the Covid totalitarianism. I strongly disagreed.
The Big Lie was that everyone was a potential carrier of the Plague of the Century. Assuming there was a real sickness, fewer than 1 in 1000 died (having their lungs blown out and/or Fauci's drugs causing organ failure shouldn't count.) Till 2020 it was understood that respiratory illnesses were NOT spread by the asymptomatic.
2020 was about denying all medical science in the centuries before and how real epidemics were handled in the past. So much gas lighting!
Did the peasants "hunker down" in their huts for months on end, as the Black Death ravaged Europe? If they had, it's likely no one would have survived since the famine would finish whoever the plague left.
I don't think the "no virus" people are maintaining that there aren't any pathogens in existence. From my reading, they maintain only that "viruses' don't exist. It's an important distinction. From what I can see, the no-virus people are less combative than the germ-theory people, since the no-virus folks don't have much to lose (other than their medical licenses, income, jobs, reputation), whereas the germ-theory (and specifically virologists) have a lot to lose if virology turns out to be a fraudulent discipline. I do agree, though, that, much like other issues on which we are encouraged by media and others to fight each other over, it would be more helpful if the two "sides" could work more closely together. I suppose that's true of all of us.
Thank you so much, Joe!
I have heard different opinions expressed, including a militant opinion that contagion as such is a psyop, which I think is a rather inaccurate opinion and potentially super unhelpful, and that's regardless of what one thinks about viruses. People can and do get sick from molds, parasites, bacteria, at the very least, and when people need help, it is important to address both the "terrain" and the "germs," this has been my observation. But regardless of what each of thinks about any matter of science, it is still possible to treat each other with respect! Hugs!
I'm not convinced that this - "steer you into a simple binary" is what is ocurring though.
Obviously I haven't read every article by every proponent of either theory - but what I see is two camps which I would characterize as follows.
Camp A - viruses. This is the mainstream narrative which has dominated public discourse for the last forty years or so (as an aside - when I was at high school in the early 80s, viruses were still thought of - at least by my biology teacher - as merely a questionable hypothesis). People in this camp tend to be dogmatic and insist that their theory is correct.
Camp B - viruses are BS. This is the counter narrative which asserts that there is very little evidence for the virus hypothesis, and importantly that
(a) experiments which should have provided evidence have all failed
(b) viruses, if they really existed, should be easy to prove. The fact that no such proof exists is therefore strong evidence against viruses.
This camp often, to one degree or another, suggests that terrain theory is a possible alternative explanation but I have not - in general - found that they insist on this. What they do insist on is merely that the evidence for the existence of viruses is absent - which seems - at least to me - to be true. The consequence of this is that "experts" who insist that virus theory is correct are (very) likely frauds and liars.
Casual followers of the debate - as opposed to experts - can be forgiven for being on the fence. I have to forgive them because this was my position for some time before I invested the time and energy to look into the arguments more deeply.
Thank you !!!
yup, yup, yup!
I land somewhere in the middle on this whole Germ and Terrain thing. (It sounds like you do as well Tessa). Heaven knows there's *something* going on out there. People didn't used to get sick the way they do now, but can we discount the insane amount of chemicals in the food, water, and medicines that people are taking? Can we discount the EMF and other radiation that we are being bathed in daily? I always say we should be looking at *everything* and not demanding that one "side" is the only side. It's this kind of thinking that has put us right where they want us... fighting with one another instead of pointing our fingers at the ones meddling with our food, medicine, air, and climate. We *must* start coming together and having rational discussions about all of this stuff and we should be doing the *real* science necessary to find out what the hell is going on. Thanks for always being on the front lines of all of this stuff Tessa!
Thank you, Rob! Yes, looking at everything makes sense to me as well!! xo
"A lot of people are struggling with their health and needing help. In order to solve problems effectively, it is helpful to have an open mind. For instance, I’ve been looking into fungal and parasitic infections wreaking havoc in the West. It’s a serious problem...."
Let me help....Oil of Oregano kills every fungus known to man. Period. Take it orally by capsule, drops or as a tea. Kills candida. It is universal in healing. Topically, internally and inhaled in a humidifier. It works. If taking for a prolong period, take probiotics. It will wipe out all gut flora.
Thank you, Jean-Baptiste! Indeed, oil of oregano is untifungal and antiparasitic, I am learning about herbs and my understanding is that it needs to be used carefully, and it is not for everyone / all occasions. There is a number of oils and herbs that are similar in action but I think for each person and each occasion, the "recipe" is a little different. That said, thank you, it is very good to think those things through!
Yeah. Oil of oregano is a rough customer. It has to be taken diluted [olive oil] if pure and only about a teaspoon and a half daily in drops. Drink plenty of water and take the probiotics. It works. I put few drops in my tea daily.
Thank you, yes, taking it undiluted is a recipe for great suffering, I don't think it's possible. I think even diluted it's not for everyone and not for all occasions, but it is definitely a potent thing! xo
Yes, each form of non-druggist medicine is a complex art and science in its own right. You can't just throw something at something and hope it hits. We have an understanding that every single intervention causes a downstream cascade of reactions that may or may not end up in a healthy place if we trigger the wrong downstream cascade. But the reality is that holistic treatments are also failing now with long covid and long vax because we are no longer dealing with "natural" diseases which respond to "natural" cures. We are dealing with man-made cross-domain monstrosities which nothing in nature is designed to address. In the same way that some drugs have been "re-purposed" to address "covid", we also have to "re-purpose" natural therapeutics and combine them into novel protocols designed to deal with each component of the cross-domain invader. Currently, we are following the lead of the re-purposed drugs, which are all anti-parasitics, and so experimenting with developing strong and complex anti-parasitic protocols designed to deal with each aspect of what I am calling "the frankenbugs".
https://curingcoviddiseases.substack.com/p/4-what-goes-into-a-healing-protocol
Jean-Baptiste, also thank you for mentioning that oregano oil suppresses "good" gut flora as well. I knew it was not good for all occasions but I didn't know why, and now I have a theory. I did a quick search and it seems like it may be not so great for bifidobacteria. I had no idea! So thank you
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6812195/#:~:text=Bifidobacterium%2C%20recognized%20as%20a%20beneficial,suppressed%20by%20the%20oregano%20treatment.
Oil of oregano is the bomb! Amazing stuff.
If I grow oregano, can I make my own or best to buy some?
You can just eat it... in salad and in all your cooked food. I'm sure you can find directions somewhere on the internet about how to distill the oil. Try 'how to make oregano essential oil' and keep scrolling past the sponsored stuff....
Thank you. Am glad to read the cautionary stuff too.
Do not get it in your eyes!!👀
yeah, i live on that stuff! I don't know how my gut bacteria survive, but they seem to have a special dispensation!
But you don’t want to wipe out all gut flora. You want to help your body return to a state of balance, harmony. If the tools are there, nutrients, minerals ect. This will happen without any knowing on the person’s part. When symptoms arise, your body is telling you that perhaps something, or many somethings are missing. Bacteria do not cause disease. They are the effect of disease. They are called upon to clean up dead tissue. Why would you kill them. I don’t believe in the concept of bad ants good bacteria. We know bacteria are pleomorphic. Could it be that bacteria change shape and do what needs being done? Then go back to there normal state?
You are absolutely correct. This is why I recommend taking heavy probiotics while using it regularly. Along with plenty of fermented foods. It has to "cycled" days on and off for most. I'm hardcore I go all in. Haven't been to a doctor in 25 years except for stiches.
As far as bacteria, some of them can be pathogenic, like mycoplasmas, for example. Dr. Garth Nicolson has done an in-depth look into mycoplasma contamination of vaccines, and I believe his conclusion is close to reality.
Oh SWEET WORMWOOD......NATURAL IVERMECTIN...and activated charcoal to detox.
Sweet wormwood is good, I like it, and thank you for mentioning it! Again, I think that there is no universal recipe, it is up to the person to figure out what works for them. Some of these herbs are supposed to do away with pathogens, some, from what I understand, make them weaker but keep them alive, so it depends on the person, on the case, etc. The world remains complex! :)
In the case of John Doe, his problem is intracellular parasites, who are known to try wreaking tremendous havoc and cause a wide range of problems. Oregano is reported to have antiparasitic properties but it seems like it also depletes bifidobacteria, and that to me is noy great as robust biidobacteria are good for us, they play a very big role in healthy immunity. I am actually very curious about this conversation, I was suspicious about high concentration oregano for some time, and thanks to Jean-baptiste, I looked into its interaction with bifidobacteria, and now I know why I have had reservations about it despite its proven antifungal / antimicrobial qualities.
I suffer low gut flora and constant fungal infections.
Generally speaking, limiting sugar and eliminating processed sugar seems to have universal benefits, with a disclaimer that each case is different, etc. Thyme essential oil may be good (diluted!!!!) Not medical advice, a philosophical though at always!
I wonder if thyme oil has the same effect on bifido as oregano - just not so strong?
Based on a quick look, it is one of the oils that does not deplete bifido, or at least not as much as many other oils (I looked at essential oils primarily). There is a number of essential oils that impactn gram-negative bateria stronger than they impact gram-positive bacteria. Bifido is gram-positive.
Great! Thanks Tessa!
I'll have to try few drops of thyme essential oil mixed with olive oil. I struggle with high inflammation levels. Turmeric and other seasonings associated with southern Asia seem to help. Oregano oil might help me as a topical infusion. I understand that you can make tea out of thyme and oregano too. I also smell lavender oil to boost my mood.
i hope you find a way to heal yourself the soonest! My personal choice is thyme over oregano, it looks like oregano may hit bifidobacteria, and bifodo are very good for us (everyone is different, I can only speak of personal choices!) I love turmeric!
I have a mix for my morning tea. Green tea as a base. A few drops of Black seed oil, tumeric oil, oregano oil, coconut oil and cinnamon to give it body. Don't get sick. Then I go crazy on coffee.................
You must have the original cast iron stomach!!!
Oh and organic garlic is very good, too!
Also black seed oil (nigella sativa)
Organic garlic (just peel the bulb, don’t peel each clove & lightly bruise each clove) fermented in organic honey - about 4 weeks after the fermentation bubbling stops start eating 1 a day. 2-3 a couple of times a day when you feel something a little out of whack.
See Tessa's comment. What I would do ?What I have done. I go hard with oil of oregano, 1-2 tablespoons in drops with alot of water throughout the day, stopping around 3pm. No white sugar, Honey only. At bedtime heavy probiotics with digestive enzymes and 2 sodium bicarbonate tablets (Rugby brand). Activated charcoal at this time works well too. Water. It usually takes about 7 days or so for me so expel the toxins. I just make sure when I do to take plenty of probiotics, eat plenty of fermented foods, drink fermented keefer and such. This is what "I" do.
See Tessa, that’s the problem with you. Always trying to take a wholistic approach. Always batting those laser pointers away. Always trying to switch on the room lights. Don’t you know cockroaches don’t like light. Omg. Light. That’s terrain. Argh.
Sorry. I’m doing a non-serious Sunday.
Thank you, Mike , you have a point there :)
Hi, I am full on terrain because that just makes more sense, I read books and follow ViroLIEgy and Sam and Mark Baily....BUT I am fully behind you, because we have a war to win and it is bad if we fight the people on the same side. Even if I don't fully agree with everyone on everything, does NOT mean they are wrong (I could be wrong!!). We learn from each other, and so we grow.... We should stand together and win the fight!! Then we can sit together in love, like you say, and talk about our differences. It is also true that the real truth is that there are truth and value on both sides and we need to bring that together to find the actual reality....... Bless you for being you and a instrument of peace and love....I admire you!!!!!!
The either-or paradigm is obviously destructive to health when you look at long term outcomes, QoL and longevity. But the governments that implemented publicly funded health care stick to the germ only paradigm and punish the medics that don't. The public generally wants the publicly funded care with the free drugs, and doesn't trust the integrative one that isn't funded or government-approved and regulated. Unfunded inclusive care like orthomolecular nutriceuticals, homeopathy, bodywork, herbal and frequency treatment gets trashed like crazy in the media and entertainment industry - just watch a couple episodes of House and you'll see what I mean. But the never-well patients that choose to get the unregulated no-drug, no-lab-test, terrain-only care at their own expense, as an alternative to their narrow-minded, miseducated, won't-listen, funded doctor who just wants them jabbed, mammogrammed, and on statins, metformin and hypertension drugs, are often not made better either. We need to consider both - Plus the spiritual aspect. But how you gonna regulate and fund Love in health care?
Finally, someone who has the creative mind to see the most sensible perspective of health / illness and the human bodymind. We need to toss to the scap heap the mechanistic worldview in science and medicine and wakeup to what that perspective is and has been doing to us at least since germ theory was monopolized by the Rockefellers et al and more reasonable approaches trashed my the Rockeftller money.
Thank you, Michael!
Tessa!
You are killing me.
How can you be So, so right again?
😁
I am looking at my right thumb nail as I write this.
Looks like it will leave me no matter what treatment I try.
It is simply detaching itself from myself. LOL
It’s No laughing matter, I know.
But You, being spot on!? Makes me laugh.
Thank you for everything you do.
Thank you for being so kind, AT! :)
"In the last days will come many false teachers, leading astray those who know not God."
I think this is a recurring theme.
We are clearly "there" again.
Sincerely seek the truth and know others by their "works", not their abstract words.
I'm just myself, a human being, and I approve of this message.
(The Germ Theory of Disease always worked pretty well for me. YMMV.)
You are one stellar human being and doctor, Brother John! What do you think about that fibrin / interferon-gamma paper? I found it very interesting, I have thought of fibrin deposits as a reaction to injury more or less, and it seems like a part of it is the body's way to prevent a cytokine overreaction?
It's an odd paper, because everybody knows that fibrin is part of blood clots, and that is how we all think of it. If you keep blood from clotting you bleed out, including from infections.
It seemed to me that they had to work pretty hard to not know what fibrin does, then prevent it from working, then present their findings as something-new.
;-(
You are right on both counts (that it's an old paper and that the role of fibrin in generally known. I was curious about the part of fibrin deposits in the liver. Is warfarin supposed to have an influence on all fibrin, or just blood coagulation? I don't know anything about it.
Blood coagulation, hardened clots and arterial plaques all involve different treatment modes.
Heparin, a blood-thinner, helps prevent clots, but does not dissolve clots.
Fibrinolytics, like Streptokinase may dissolve fresh clots, for instance in treating a fresh and developing heart attack, by dissolving the clot to open the artery. This is now done with fresh and forming ischemic strokes, also.
Hardened plaques in arteries are different still. It is rare that treatments reduce them in a person over a year or more, and quite variable between patients. They may be treated surgically, as in coronary arterial bypass grafting.
I am looking into theoretical aspects of serrapeptase, I like its practical aspects but I always like to understand the mechanism, etc. It is reported to dissolve clots and plaque due to its affinity to non-living protein. I am in the middle of writing an article about it, iI find it to be fascinating.
Serrapeptase from silkworms is interesting: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/serrapeptase
Nattokinase from a fermented soy food, Natto, is something that can, at high doses, start to reverse coronary artery plaques in about 40% of people at the higher cardiac doses, a little under 12,000 fibrinolytic units per day. Diet and exercise changes probably matter a lot, avoiding fatty and smoked meats and processed foods, eating a lot of fresh vegetables, and exercising daily.
Of course it works for you. Keeping people ill is a great business model.
You've mistaken me for somebody else.
:-)
Sylvie, I just properly read this part of the thread. John is a stunningly beautiful human being who has helped many, many people. I am honored to call him a friend!
Thank you, Tessa, for your upholding the cause of love and peace. "Getting off each other's throats" seems to be a recurring theme, I've read three appeals of this kind on three different blogs in two days. I for one don't really get why every one of us needs to instantly have an opinion formed on every subject! If I am not a French scholar and speak no French, should I have an opinion on whether this or that French phrase is correct?
Debate ideas, don't insult each other... is that too much to ask? Of course it is.
P.S. Those cats!
Thank you, Iris, and yes! those cats :)
You forgot "John was told to avoid the sun because it was bad for him and caused cancer".
both!
Correct diagnosis and prognosis means Mr John Doe lives.
Incorrect diagnosis and prognosis means Mr John Doe dies suddenly or slowly.
Finding workable technique to dissolve white clots means you live. If people see, listen and apply knowledge as wisdom, its a good thing.
Fibrin, amyloid, amyloidosis, doesn't leave perfect rubbery mold castings of the vasculature. Actuators from the Biomedical nanotechnology department does.
Its either correct or incorrect. It just is. Nothing to do with being corrector.
I don't seem to be the marrying type. I'm not married to any of the ideas thrown around, though I may get attached to some ideas for a period of time. I've become skeptical of everything. Many people in the 'movement' seem to become more interested in being personally recognized as 'truth-finders' and then into monetizing their wonderfulness.
I don't see validity in any 'one size fits all' for any drug, herb, essential oil, specific of any healing modality etc. being safe and effective for every body.
The fibrin as a protectant, a part of a healing process idea is fascinating.
Nice analysis of how the ideologues tend to pigeonhole themselves. Complex systems require complex understandings. There is nothing so simple that it will resist the human interest to oversimplify, and nothing so complex that humans will not complicate them unnecessarily. The truth is a slippery affair: the tighter you grasp on to it, the more it escapes you.
I agree, and thank you!!
I read about terrain theory in 1991. I incorporated it into my approach. I use both, and if one works better than the other, i lean into it. you do not have to choose because some Ijeet says so. both. it's more fun. why limit yourself like that? guh.
Good for you!! Hugs!
it's weird how people get dogmatic about the strangest things. i wonder if they learned this from religion, this harmful and divisive exclusivism. A tremendous waste of energy. The goal is to get people well, , what works is the way.
YES!!! What works is the way!