Conspiracy, Mob Morality, and Amnesty: A Conversation with Charles Eisenstein
... and the meaning of life, while we are at it.
This story is about my conversation with Charles Eisenstein. Recently, I reached out to Charles to discuss his views on “conspiracy theories”—and we ended up talking about everything, from the trajectory of our civilization to Emily Oster and her “pandemic amnesty.”
In September, Charles published an article titled, “There’s No One Driving the Bus.” It kind of read like Charles was saying that conspiracies did not exist. However, based on my earlier conversation with Charles and his work in general, I wondered if that was what he was really saying—or whether it was just one chunk of what he was thinking about on a given day, a phase in an ongoing inner monologue, a side of a convoluted plot. I wondered if, in the words of fact-checkers, the conclusion—imprisoned in mechanical letters—was “taken out of context.” :)
So, I reached out to Charles, and we decided to discuss it and see where it would lead us. It led us to a very interesting conversation in which we meandered, switched sides back and forth, and talked like two curious human beings, thinking out loud about complicated matters—rigid talking points be damned.
If you want to jump straight to the interview, here it is.
A few additional thoughts.
What is a conspiracy?
I wrote on the topic extensively in a number of articles. Here are some of them, please check them out if you like.
No really, what is a conspiracy?
I have observed that when people argue obnoxiously against the existence of conspiracies, they typically argue not against what most of us talk about when we talk about conspiracies—but against a grotesque, imaginary beast, a fantastical blend of ideas—as if the existence of conspiracies implies that no other motivation can simultaneously exist.
The argument goes something like this: “See, there is corruption, therefore there is obviously no conspiracy. Case closed. You idiot.”
Of course, the existence of coordinated human behavior to accomplish a given goal does not imply that everyone underneath just moves like a bunch of zombies, without any independent motivations of their own or their own desires!
In fact, the spiritual dynamic (and, I believe, the existential reason why the people pushing forth the awful Great Reset are allowed to advance) is that the tricksters, the conspiring tricksters, provide conditions for us to exercise free will and to choose our hearts over their bleak proposals—and in order for them to lose their power, we need to find our power from a place of love. They make things bleak as a reminder to us of what “alive” feels like, how sweet it is. This is the way I see it anyway.
So, here is the interview again, and I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoyed it in the moment!
“Conspiracy Smoothie”: a small disgusting bit from 2020 (and then please shower)
A classic example of “mainsplaining” (mainstream explaining, while downplaying) conspiracies was the egregious 2020 article by Naomi Klein called, “The Great Reset Conspiracy Smoothie.” Her not-so-good article featured an even worse film, “The Years of Repair”—and out of principle, I am not going to link to it—but if you really want to check it out, it’s mentioned in her article.
Here is a quote from her article, followed by another useful exhibit.
And yet search for the term “global reset” and you will be bombarded with breathless “exposés” of a secret globalist cabal, headed by Schwab and Bill Gates, that is using the state of shock created by the coronavirus (which is probably itself a “hoax”) to turn the world into a high-tech dictatorship that will take away your freedom forever: a green/socialist/Venezuela/Soros/forced vaccine dictatorship if the Reset exposé is coming from the far right, and a Big Pharma/GMO/biometric implants/5G/robot dog/forced vaccine dictatorship if the exposé hails from the far left.
A reality check
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