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Oh and bacteria most definitely can cause disease. They just recently hospitalized a bunch of people in Moscow because some restaurant was selling a Georgian dish contaminated with Clostridium botulinum, a bacterium whose toxin can lead to paralysis of the lungs, in which case unfortunately the infected person needs urgent help or departs this world. it is the toxin they use in botox, allegedly. So, I am not sure why anyone would claim that bacteria can't cause disease, I leave in the realm of free speech. But I don't have to agree with the things that go against the evidence of my eyes! :-)

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Yes, the toxic metabolites of those bacteria can cause sickness just like mold!

I remember an article about smallpox and how sanitation was what helped reduce the toxic load of bacteria and fungus that fed on the manure they used to leave on the streets and in alleyways.

Meanwhile, the smallpox inoculations increased sickness.

It's amazing how long cities and towns went without clean water and people were cramped in small apartments and they focused on a bacteria instead of those horrid conditions!

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Oh an innoculations are another matter altogether...

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LOL, our conversations always seem to come to the same point, i.e. why is there a need to pick ONE cause and not pay attention to ALL OF THEM? :-)

PS. You said, "Yes, the toxic metabolites of those bacteria can cause sickness just like mold!" So does it mean then bacteria can, in fact, cause disease? :)

And if so, then it would be factually incorrect to claim that bacteria can't cause disease in humans?

And if so, would we benefit from focusing not on talking points but on practical measures that are based on facts of nature and our circumstance at this moment? Striving for a world without toxins is great. I strive for it.. But it is not likely to show up any time soon!! And so we need to do things as they apply to our life here and now and address all factors that we have the power to address, as much as possible?

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