I would ask them what in the hell they were thinking, tell them that I don't play the game of musical chairs, embrace them if they have sorted their soul out in earnest, and move on otherwise
I think moving on from pain is healthy, it is easier to fight a good fight from a place of peace and strength that it is from a place of torment. I think torment is a temporary phase that, if we really try and keep trying, delivers us to a place of peace and strength, and then we become better warriors for all things good.
I agree. I thought of it as getting tough lessons that I did not learn in my family of origin. I thought of it as being seasoned to become a better warrior.
I realize not everyone is wired this way, but I have basically no feelings about people that have been cruel to me. If I ever got famous and was asked 'what do you say to all the people who doubted or mistreated you now?' or something similar, I would not be able to give a moving or clever answer. I rarely think about it at all. I think this makes me one of the lucky ones, to be honest.
I wasn't aware that you were under attack. Personally, I've experienced cancellation from my PhD program and have been subjected to DARVO techniques. It's truly painful to endure ad hominem attacks.
I was undermined by my supervisor. I intended to write my dissertation on the March 11, 2020 lockdown and the subsequent QR code pass. My situation is reminiscent of what former NYU Professor Mark Crispin Miller experienced a few years ago.
It is much better to light a candle and forgive the abuser than to curse the abuser.
The act of forgiving releases pain and suffering by shifting your focus to the abuser, for the abuser does not care and has moved on…..forgiveness benefits the abused, not the abuser.
I think the reaction should not be forced. I very much advocate for forgiveness but it has to be organic, and if the person to be forgiven has not sorted it out, it could be more like letting go without malice and leaving it to the Creator to sort out in the kindest, most pleasant and meaningful way, and the most spiritually elevating. I think when people force emotions upon themselves for intellectual reasons, it doesn't help a whole lot, needs to come from the inside.
Timely info indeed. Thanks Tessa. I may or may not be at the Zoom chat. I am bad at appt keeping. Day slips by like a river too often, I float along attending to what bobs up. Or rest and reflect. Slow mode mixed with too fast. I tripped two days ago and slow mode is enforced temporarily. Owie toes.
I have been thinking about this a lot of late, not just with respect to Covid madness and the cruel remarks and cancellation I encountered because I spoke out/questioned, but cruelty in general (eg like your assault in China) and how so many just seem to easily “move on.” Perplexing. ✨💛
I hear you! I think that "moving on if the other party has not yet sorted their soul out" is probably the healthiest way, and the most joyous one, if somebody was cruel to you. As for those tho have acted with cruelty, it is in their best spiritual interests to sort it out, they will be happier in the long run!!!!
I think that sooner or later, cruelty caused to others percolates up in people's souls, in the same lifetime or later. And I mean it percolates as something they become aware of and start really regretting, not as a punishment. I think that "hell" is really just suddenly realizing the pain caused, and feeling the great desire to fix it. And I think it always comes to love, it's just that sometimes it is slow.
I am sorry you went through such things, but I sense you have learned from all of it. Nothing in this reality matters enough for one to take advantage of another for their own personal gain or satisfaction. Anyone you view who engages in that sort of thing does so because this reality matters to them. It matters to them because they don't sense anything beyond it. They are trapped in the sandbox in a far corner of the playground.
Thanks Tessa. Thanks for keeping up the inner-work, Warrior-Sister.
Here is something from a girl who used to be a "Guardian Angel" and drove a cab in Boston, trying to find her purpose in life, and who saw friendly numbers dancing in the dusty sunlight coming in her bedroom window as a child...
Much later she wrote a book, "The Buddhist Enneagram", which I am quite appreciating.
Watch the first 3 short videos in order for best introduction:
I love this, as you hit it right on the nail dear Woman, if we have a good relationship with Source, than there is no reason to fear talking to people and shooting the truth from the hip, as a cowboy on the wild wild West would. I think people who think they are awake most often confuse that with knowledge only, or having something to sell so they get financial security. I am seeing the Truthers and patriots go down the same road as the NEW AGE movement and it is harder to watch than the theatre going on. THANK YOU Sharon
These were the thoughts that crossed my mind when reading this, but these thoughts need not be associated with this pair of articles in any way:
Inversion of the direction of being cruel. To my astonishment, the so-called spiritual guys use this trick a lot.
Once again, not just problems with courage and love, but lack of integrity, e.g. scapegoating is what prevents people from keeping things as simple as they are. The tyrants love this mess in our societies largely based on and created by the critical mass of the so-called useful idiots who don't have to take responsibility for e.g. canceling independent-minded people for their sound mind and their well-functioning communities which, by the way are very important building blocks of free societies, for pathological fun and their agents bullying those who do, and the robbery of freedoms and civil rights that comes with it.
Plain courage and love are often insufficient for practical purposes. In other words, the sneaky propagandist is the stereotype that describes the problem. They can be lectured, but it often takes too much time. Combine it with narcissism and so forth to solve it properly, and the last line of the concluding poem of a well-known anecdote from the nineties in the collapsing Soviet Union: "Стоит статуя совсем без ..." Some people deserve isolation instead of membership in a well-functioning community. That's it, and it's educative (the bumpy road).
It seems that in the propagandist's mind, with the help of real prejudices nudging prejudices, prejudices of prejudices and other propagandist constructs that are designed to look like prejudices can easily be used in exercising domination by distortion and incrimination, reflecting that "club homework" at character level has not been done. I find such people extremely disgusting and a big waste of time. I like to make sense of what I hear or read, so I put all the great reset enthusiasts and the stupid heartspeakers alike into the same category of stupidity and kindly ask to keep the meaning of their words clear and their overall ideas reasonable.
Contributing to creating loads of nudging (propagandist) scapegoating-oriented information to distort the world around us is definitely not a step in the truly happier direction for anyone and counter-canceling is something I've found useful in critical situations by just making heavy fun of the abusers of power or of their position and then watching the awakened crowd do the rest. So, my approach is much more of practical orientation than the religion-flavored approach described in the articles here, but there seem to be large common grounds everywhere I look (the soulless robotoids, globalist thieves, slavery specialists of various stripes and what not), so if the approach presented here doesn't become too much of a pain in practice then combining our experiences will most probably result in rewarding ideas and co-op.
With the problems despised by one co-operation partner or the other off the table, I can share the story of our community here in a few weeks to see whether and how the different approaches against the mobsters we have taken play out as complementary paths on the road to countering the globalist abuse of administrative power.
P.S. A comment about the ideas of "one way or another", "letting go", "easily moving on", "in the long run" and other ways of lazy loading into our short lives: it makes sense to focus on the *abuse* in the first place, not the abuser or the abused person, although in practice, shifting public attention to the abuser can help a lot with keeping it simple and preventing the overall damage done.
This is where a little bit of engineering can help as religion in practice can easily get personal in obfuscating and, unfortunately, even misguiding ways, as the meaning of forgiveness doesn't work very well outside of religious contexts, can amplify the mess caused and grossly help with covering up the culprit of the mayhem, propagating a sense of impunity to wreak the next havoc and distancing from the world of ideas, including the implementation of all the good sound principles living there. In other words, if you have bitch mode feminism on Venus today and deployment of nuclear weapons on Mars tomorrow then you probably want to take some "witch hunting" action in this life already and send all these globalist abusers of administrative power to, say, Pluto :D
"You affrim yourself best in solitudes and meditations, not in parties or frantic socializing. Solitude leads to depth of intellect."
Unlike people, evil has no biological sex. Also, there is a saying that guilty are not the people, but their wrongdoings. I agree to this idea from the perspective of problem solving more than from other perspectives. Religion is an at least equally important problem solver at personal level when you have a lot of time, but first things first...
Moving on is best. Living well is the best revenge used to be the advice. I think it is a bit frivolous for our current situation.
I think moving on from pain is healthy, it is easier to fight a good fight from a place of peace and strength that it is from a place of torment. I think torment is a temporary phase that, if we really try and keep trying, delivers us to a place of peace and strength, and then we become better warriors for all things good.
💯
I agree. I thought of it as getting tough lessons that I did not learn in my family of origin. I thought of it as being seasoned to become a better warrior.
I realize not everyone is wired this way, but I have basically no feelings about people that have been cruel to me. If I ever got famous and was asked 'what do you say to all the people who doubted or mistreated you now?' or something similar, I would not be able to give a moving or clever answer. I rarely think about it at all. I think this makes me one of the lucky ones, to be honest.
I would Answer "Well, they can just Sizzle in Hell for they certainly put me through it" :-D
I wasn't aware that you were under attack. Personally, I've experienced cancellation from my PhD program and have been subjected to DARVO techniques. It's truly painful to endure ad hominem attacks.
I am sorry you experienced cancellation!! Hugs to you!
I was undermined by my supervisor. I intended to write my dissertation on the March 11, 2020 lockdown and the subsequent QR code pass. My situation is reminiscent of what former NYU Professor Mark Crispin Miller experienced a few years ago.
I hope you prevail in the long term!!! You deserve it!!!
You could try praying for them. It helps me.
Yes, I agree, and I think that when one has the energy and the inclination to do that, it's a great idea!!
It is much better to light a candle and forgive the abuser than to curse the abuser.
The act of forgiving releases pain and suffering by shifting your focus to the abuser, for the abuser does not care and has moved on…..forgiveness benefits the abused, not the abuser.
I think the reaction should not be forced. I very much advocate for forgiveness but it has to be organic, and if the person to be forgiven has not sorted it out, it could be more like letting go without malice and leaving it to the Creator to sort out in the kindest, most pleasant and meaningful way, and the most spiritually elevating. I think when people force emotions upon themselves for intellectual reasons, it doesn't help a whole lot, needs to come from the inside.
Absolutely, Tessa the Kind Empath….
“You are water and the wisdom of water you know.
So just allow yourself to flow; and then the wonder grows…
Your soul will reach beyond the seas,
With harmony on prayers of peace…
Never stopping, never halting, bravely water flows…
Brightly and boldly into the cosmos, for water knows.”
—The Secret Life of Water, by Dr. Masaru Emoto.
Timely info indeed. Thanks Tessa. I may or may not be at the Zoom chat. I am bad at appt keeping. Day slips by like a river too often, I float along attending to what bobs up. Or rest and reflect. Slow mode mixed with too fast. I tripped two days ago and slow mode is enforced temporarily. Owie toes.
Thank you, Jennifer!!
Nature always knocks down tyrants one way or another. Sooner or later the witch hunter's torch burns one of the igniters, and the hunt ends.
I have been thinking about this a lot of late, not just with respect to Covid madness and the cruel remarks and cancellation I encountered because I spoke out/questioned, but cruelty in general (eg like your assault in China) and how so many just seem to easily “move on.” Perplexing. ✨💛
I hear you! I think that "moving on if the other party has not yet sorted their soul out" is probably the healthiest way, and the most joyous one, if somebody was cruel to you. As for those tho have acted with cruelty, it is in their best spiritual interests to sort it out, they will be happier in the long run!!!!
Move on after they perpetrate cruelty I mean.
Yep, I read it this way.
I think that sooner or later, cruelty caused to others percolates up in people's souls, in the same lifetime or later. And I mean it percolates as something they become aware of and start really regretting, not as a punishment. I think that "hell" is really just suddenly realizing the pain caused, and feeling the great desire to fix it. And I think it always comes to love, it's just that sometimes it is slow.
Sorry about your traumatic events!
This substack is great about trauma and how to work through it.
https://garysharpe.substack.com/p/self-alienation-fragmentation-and?utm_source=%2Finbox&utm_medium=reader2
I am sorry you went through such things, but I sense you have learned from all of it. Nothing in this reality matters enough for one to take advantage of another for their own personal gain or satisfaction. Anyone you view who engages in that sort of thing does so because this reality matters to them. It matters to them because they don't sense anything beyond it. They are trapped in the sandbox in a far corner of the playground.
Shared by the journalist Whitney Webb. https://www.facebook.com/whitney.webbeer/videos/819092453461151
Thanks Tessa. Thanks for keeping up the inner-work, Warrior-Sister.
Here is something from a girl who used to be a "Guardian Angel" and drove a cab in Boston, trying to find her purpose in life, and who saw friendly numbers dancing in the dusty sunlight coming in her bedroom window as a child...
Much later she wrote a book, "The Buddhist Enneagram", which I am quite appreciating.
Watch the first 3 short videos in order for best introduction:
https://openheartproject.com/introduction-to-the-enneagram-2/
I love this, as you hit it right on the nail dear Woman, if we have a good relationship with Source, than there is no reason to fear talking to people and shooting the truth from the hip, as a cowboy on the wild wild West would. I think people who think they are awake most often confuse that with knowledge only, or having something to sell so they get financial security. I am seeing the Truthers and patriots go down the same road as the NEW AGE movement and it is harder to watch than the theatre going on. THANK YOU Sharon
Thank you, Sharon!! xoxo
These were the thoughts that crossed my mind when reading this, but these thoughts need not be associated with this pair of articles in any way:
Inversion of the direction of being cruel. To my astonishment, the so-called spiritual guys use this trick a lot.
Once again, not just problems with courage and love, but lack of integrity, e.g. scapegoating is what prevents people from keeping things as simple as they are. The tyrants love this mess in our societies largely based on and created by the critical mass of the so-called useful idiots who don't have to take responsibility for e.g. canceling independent-minded people for their sound mind and their well-functioning communities which, by the way are very important building blocks of free societies, for pathological fun and their agents bullying those who do, and the robbery of freedoms and civil rights that comes with it.
Plain courage and love are often insufficient for practical purposes. In other words, the sneaky propagandist is the stereotype that describes the problem. They can be lectured, but it often takes too much time. Combine it with narcissism and so forth to solve it properly, and the last line of the concluding poem of a well-known anecdote from the nineties in the collapsing Soviet Union: "Стоит статуя совсем без ..." Some people deserve isolation instead of membership in a well-functioning community. That's it, and it's educative (the bumpy road).
It seems that in the propagandist's mind, with the help of real prejudices nudging prejudices, prejudices of prejudices and other propagandist constructs that are designed to look like prejudices can easily be used in exercising domination by distortion and incrimination, reflecting that "club homework" at character level has not been done. I find such people extremely disgusting and a big waste of time. I like to make sense of what I hear or read, so I put all the great reset enthusiasts and the stupid heartspeakers alike into the same category of stupidity and kindly ask to keep the meaning of their words clear and their overall ideas reasonable.
Contributing to creating loads of nudging (propagandist) scapegoating-oriented information to distort the world around us is definitely not a step in the truly happier direction for anyone and counter-canceling is something I've found useful in critical situations by just making heavy fun of the abusers of power or of their position and then watching the awakened crowd do the rest. So, my approach is much more of practical orientation than the religion-flavored approach described in the articles here, but there seem to be large common grounds everywhere I look (the soulless robotoids, globalist thieves, slavery specialists of various stripes and what not), so if the approach presented here doesn't become too much of a pain in practice then combining our experiences will most probably result in rewarding ideas and co-op.
With the problems despised by one co-operation partner or the other off the table, I can share the story of our community here in a few weeks to see whether and how the different approaches against the mobsters we have taken play out as complementary paths on the road to countering the globalist abuse of administrative power.
P.S. A comment about the ideas of "one way or another", "letting go", "easily moving on", "in the long run" and other ways of lazy loading into our short lives: it makes sense to focus on the *abuse* in the first place, not the abuser or the abused person, although in practice, shifting public attention to the abuser can help a lot with keeping it simple and preventing the overall damage done.
This is where a little bit of engineering can help as religion in practice can easily get personal in obfuscating and, unfortunately, even misguiding ways, as the meaning of forgiveness doesn't work very well outside of religious contexts, can amplify the mess caused and grossly help with covering up the culprit of the mayhem, propagating a sense of impunity to wreak the next havoc and distancing from the world of ideas, including the implementation of all the good sound principles living there. In other words, if you have bitch mode feminism on Venus today and deployment of nuclear weapons on Mars tomorrow then you probably want to take some "witch hunting" action in this life already and send all these globalist abusers of administrative power to, say, Pluto :D
"You affrim yourself best in solitudes and meditations, not in parties or frantic socializing. Solitude leads to depth of intellect."
https://archive.org/details/differentkindoft00gatt/page/208/mode/2up?q=frantic
Unlike people, evil has no biological sex. Also, there is a saying that guilty are not the people, but their wrongdoings. I agree to this idea from the perspective of problem solving more than from other perspectives. Religion is an at least equally important problem solver at personal level when you have a lot of time, but first things first...