This is the result of 4 generations of under-educated but fully-indoctrinated children who were allowed to grow-up without becoming adults: the "Cult of Alinsky."
A - There are legitimate polls, randomized, respondents representative of the population.
B - There are push polls where the linguistic framing of questions is known to drive a desired response and change the beliefs of a respondent.
C - There are polls on subjects with known rightthink and wrongthink where respondents will lie to pollsters when they believe a 'wrong' answer will make them sound like 'bad' people to the questioner, but retain their 'wrong' beliefs.
D - There are polls that are fictional, narratives being pushed with completely made up numbers, non-randomized samples intended to make people believe a subject is popular or unpopular.
That French travel poll is some combination of B, C, and D. I'm leaning towards D.
I'm a French citizen and see no evidence of this. Polls tend to be absurd and this one seems more suspect than others. It appears to have been conducted with the goal of validating the idea that the French would agree to the goal of reducing their amount of air travel in the medium term (that is a literal translation). Once they got general agreement on that (I would agree with that myself, since it sounds like a reasonable Lenten resolution), they found a way of slipping in the idea of only 4 flights in a lifetime. How they did that I have no idea, but I suspect they proposed it as a hypothetical. These phony polls never give you the text of the questions or their methodology. I see no reason for taking these so-called "findings" seriously. In this age of propaganda, language, statistics and much of what calls itself science reporting all tend to be just a ruse for selling something, a product, an ideology or just an excuse for getting into the news cycle.
I saw that poll that was widely reported on European press (Italian , UK checked myself directly).
Unfortunately I think that this is a fake poll to manipulate the mind of poor people... pls consider that France has a lot of so called DOM TOM ie oversees territories, all quite far and reachable by plane only: all the French Antilles in the Caribbean; Martinique in the Indian Ocean and quite a few islands in the Pacific. Not to mention all the former colonies especially in Africa that have a special relationship. With France.
All the French citizens living in those countries DO fly a lot and at a discount cost... and French in mainland consider that as normal ..I would find quite odd if such a % of French basically decided to give up their extended countries !
I really feel that this was a fake piece of news placed by the EU establishment !
how would that work with active duty military & their families stationed overseas? people who travel for their job? families scattered hither and yon around the globe? personally i think it's ludicrous. totalitarian creep indeed.
Bloody Hell, man. Who’d ask such a question in the first place, what’s their agenda and how simple are the sheeple who answered in the affirmative, if you can believe the cooked results? Or should I say, baked? Considering Most aircraft are going totally electric in a very short time, even jets, and with technology evolving the way it is so to totally eliminate the “pollution question” and finally drive the price of electricity down to it’s true cost, ZERO, which Benjamin Franklin and then Tesla understood over a century ago, you must believe this has everything to do with Fascist Authoritarianisms; Eugenicist Slavers and their insane slaves dedicated to end real independence and grassroots democracy. And so I ask, again, who and what’s behind this, because that answer is more important than this stupid poll question.
Tessa, I saw that poll myself and it startled me right out of my pants! I was a student in Soviet Leningrad for 6 months back in the 80's and I was deeply affected by my experience of a highly intelligent, creative, sensitive and beautiful people who were, through no fault of their own, ignorant of so many domains of modern ideas and the human conversation that was happening in other places across the globe. How crucial our experience of other people in other countries is to our ability to assess the truth of what we are told through captured media! I thank God every day for our citizen journalists, some who even muster funds to travel to the frontlines of war to give us the unauthorized version of events. The sentiment expressed in this poll is truly, truly shocking. On the other hand... Do we really believe the poll is representative of such a significant swath of young people?
This is the result of 4 generations of under-educated but fully-indoctrinated children who were allowed to grow-up without becoming adults: the "Cult of Alinsky."
A - There are legitimate polls, randomized, respondents representative of the population.
B - There are push polls where the linguistic framing of questions is known to drive a desired response and change the beliefs of a respondent.
C - There are polls on subjects with known rightthink and wrongthink where respondents will lie to pollsters when they believe a 'wrong' answer will make them sound like 'bad' people to the questioner, but retain their 'wrong' beliefs.
D - There are polls that are fictional, narratives being pushed with completely made up numbers, non-randomized samples intended to make people believe a subject is popular or unpopular.
That French travel poll is some combination of B, C, and D. I'm leaning towards D.
I'm a French citizen and see no evidence of this. Polls tend to be absurd and this one seems more suspect than others. It appears to have been conducted with the goal of validating the idea that the French would agree to the goal of reducing their amount of air travel in the medium term (that is a literal translation). Once they got general agreement on that (I would agree with that myself, since it sounds like a reasonable Lenten resolution), they found a way of slipping in the idea of only 4 flights in a lifetime. How they did that I have no idea, but I suspect they proposed it as a hypothetical. These phony polls never give you the text of the questions or their methodology. I see no reason for taking these so-called "findings" seriously. In this age of propaganda, language, statistics and much of what calls itself science reporting all tend to be just a ruse for selling something, a product, an ideology or just an excuse for getting into the news cycle.
To Laugh so as not to weep... I love your sardonic sense of humor, Tessa.
If only they knew that in historical data, co2 rises w a lag AFTER temperature.
But as long as the "experts" and groups bullshit us, people will go along with that nonsense.
Whatever...
Yeah. One of the most shocking things to witness is the way people will self sabotage, thinking their compliance will somehow save them.
les francais aiment bien leurs trains (i think everybody can figure that out)
they're the last people anyone would want to ask about planes.
it's all about framing. what a scam.
Hallo Tessa
I saw that poll that was widely reported on European press (Italian , UK checked myself directly).
Unfortunately I think that this is a fake poll to manipulate the mind of poor people... pls consider that France has a lot of so called DOM TOM ie oversees territories, all quite far and reachable by plane only: all the French Antilles in the Caribbean; Martinique in the Indian Ocean and quite a few islands in the Pacific. Not to mention all the former colonies especially in Africa that have a special relationship. With France.
All the French citizens living in those countries DO fly a lot and at a discount cost... and French in mainland consider that as normal ..I would find quite odd if such a % of French basically decided to give up their extended countries !
I really feel that this was a fake piece of news placed by the EU establishment !
Polls, like MSM, are tools meant to nudge the masses. They’re about as honest as the typical politician. The globalists are at work as usual...
how would that work with active duty military & their families stationed overseas? people who travel for their job? families scattered hither and yon around the globe? personally i think it's ludicrous. totalitarian creep indeed.
Bloody Hell, man. Who’d ask such a question in the first place, what’s their agenda and how simple are the sheeple who answered in the affirmative, if you can believe the cooked results? Or should I say, baked? Considering Most aircraft are going totally electric in a very short time, even jets, and with technology evolving the way it is so to totally eliminate the “pollution question” and finally drive the price of electricity down to it’s true cost, ZERO, which Benjamin Franklin and then Tesla understood over a century ago, you must believe this has everything to do with Fascist Authoritarianisms; Eugenicist Slavers and their insane slaves dedicated to end real independence and grassroots democracy. And so I ask, again, who and what’s behind this, because that answer is more important than this stupid poll question.
One, I don't believe it (or any other polls), two, that's why they say it is a French Poll.
fear everywhere... but especially among the young... what a shame... what a departure from the age-old habits of young people to live dangerously....
Tessa, I saw that poll myself and it startled me right out of my pants! I was a student in Soviet Leningrad for 6 months back in the 80's and I was deeply affected by my experience of a highly intelligent, creative, sensitive and beautiful people who were, through no fault of their own, ignorant of so many domains of modern ideas and the human conversation that was happening in other places across the globe. How crucial our experience of other people in other countries is to our ability to assess the truth of what we are told through captured media! I thank God every day for our citizen journalists, some who even muster funds to travel to the frontlines of war to give us the unauthorized version of events. The sentiment expressed in this poll is truly, truly shocking. On the other hand... Do we really believe the poll is representative of such a significant swath of young people?
Ok, given that the poll in question is probably bs, think about the next question on the poll: how many private flights will elites be allowed?
With the exception of anyone owning an airplane, or shares of one, of course.
Comrade statue-washer get to go to the beech outside Königsberg once per year, in Oktober.
Comrade oligark gets a dacha on the Black Sea.