My power company sends me this shale about how my energy usage compares to that of my neighbors. I would bet the farm they game those numbers to manipulate us. I'm all for saving money and using less energy, but I totally hear what you're saying, Tessa. There's cheese in the trap.
Thanks for pointing this out. I knew it was coming as I opted out of the "smart meter" for various reasons. Con Ed is not at all happy about my opting out so billing has become quite arduous (a way to try & get me on the "smart meter"). I generally take a picture of the meter with an actual digital camera since I also don't have a "smart-phone" surveillance device & send it by e-mail but they have consistently over-charged me which entails phone calls, re-establishing time-lines & a whole host of other mechanisms to make it difficult for me to maintain my "dumb" status. I used to be a super in a few buildings so I know how these things work etc. Anyways, just wanted to throw this info out there, I wonder if others who have "opted out" have found their normal electrical bill to become quite a pain in the neck to deal with!
Energy companies that once had capacity, but went "green" and decommissioned power plants and ended up with a finite resource where there once was affordable abundance. And then they tell everyone rolling blackouts are normal, and try to make you forget power was once abundant and affordable. Then they send "helpful" tips about how to save energy. Consumers say "sure" to save a few bucks...and then this happens:
It's a feature, not a flaw. That price for "green energy" that's never talked about when they shut down capacity. Would you have agreed to shut down the power plants "to save the planet" (lie) if you knew the real cost? Are there more who would agree to that than who wouldn't?
But,but, when we all use power during off-peak hours, the off-peak hours become the super-peak hours. What should we helpless idiots do now, mr super-technican ?
I wish more people believed in this Reset. People have to start paying attention to what is happening around them for example the FISA bill passing in Congress..The bill is to allow the FBI arrest American Citizens without a warrant. OH, except for the people in Government.. Get it more freedoms being taken away
Puget Power in Olympia is sending mail soliciting enrollment in a program that will save you money but limit your thermostat during peak use. F no and FUJI. If you know, you know
I had the power company install a dump electrical meter so I can be the only smart in the house. I received ‘threats’ from the state, and the city representatives (elected officials !!) that I was wrong and told me smart meters are sooo good (for whom?) and other propaganda.
Action like this is exactly why I will NEVER install a remote programmable thermostat in my house. Utility companies offer them for free because they want to control the temp in your home per some lunatic control idea.
I like when they say “ win-win”. There’s no “ win” in tyranny. There’s no “ win” in slavery by ignorance or otherwise. I will run my electricity just to mess up their data. I won’t comply. Maybe I’ll be the next inventor of the water fuel car? No electricity, no fuel, no problem. That guy questionably met his demise after meeting with our gov. agents. Hmm.. 🙈 Gotta go, I’m off to buy a gas stove, maybe 2.
I am in the power business, and this is normal stuff. The fact that the US is running 70 years behind the rest of the world cannot be helped. If you want to go back to the middle ages, be my guest. We had our water heaters on time of use in the fifties in Holland, and that is purely a rational matter of load management. Look into the economics of the power grid a little bit and you will understand. You can accommodate everything in theory, but it becomes unaffordable, for the utilization of your distribution network will be very low, and prices very high.
By and large, I think Europe was quicker in these things exactly because energy prices tended to be higher. The US always was much more wasteful of energy.
My power company sends me this shale about how my energy usage compares to that of my neighbors. I would bet the farm they game those numbers to manipulate us. I'm all for saving money and using less energy, but I totally hear what you're saying, Tessa. There's cheese in the trap.
very astute - I have been getting notices like this - and I actually run certain things at night as a good citizen. I am so creeped out.
HA! I JUST got the same email!! I thought it was weird but didn't pay much attention to it and deleted it. OMG - you are SO right!! UGH.
Thanks for pointing this out. I knew it was coming as I opted out of the "smart meter" for various reasons. Con Ed is not at all happy about my opting out so billing has become quite arduous (a way to try & get me on the "smart meter"). I generally take a picture of the meter with an actual digital camera since I also don't have a "smart-phone" surveillance device & send it by e-mail but they have consistently over-charged me which entails phone calls, re-establishing time-lines & a whole host of other mechanisms to make it difficult for me to maintain my "dumb" status. I used to be a super in a few buildings so I know how these things work etc. Anyways, just wanted to throw this info out there, I wonder if others who have "opted out" have found their normal electrical bill to become quite a pain in the neck to deal with!
Energy companies that once had capacity, but went "green" and decommissioned power plants and ended up with a finite resource where there once was affordable abundance. And then they tell everyone rolling blackouts are normal, and try to make you forget power was once abundant and affordable. Then they send "helpful" tips about how to save energy. Consumers say "sure" to save a few bucks...and then this happens:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/colorado-utility-company-locks-22000-thermostats-in-90-degree-weather-due-energy-emergency
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/22000-colorado-residents-prevented-from-turning-up-air-conditioning-during-energy-emergency/
It's a feature, not a flaw. That price for "green energy" that's never talked about when they shut down capacity. Would you have agreed to shut down the power plants "to save the planet" (lie) if you knew the real cost? Are there more who would agree to that than who wouldn't?
But,but, when we all use power during off-peak hours, the off-peak hours become the super-peak hours. What should we helpless idiots do now, mr super-technican ?
I am experiencing the same thing with Hydro-Québec promoting similar messaging.
I wish more people believed in this Reset. People have to start paying attention to what is happening around them for example the FISA bill passing in Congress..The bill is to allow the FBI arrest American Citizens without a warrant. OH, except for the people in Government.. Get it more freedoms being taken away
Puget Power in Olympia is sending mail soliciting enrollment in a program that will save you money but limit your thermostat during peak use. F no and FUJI. If you know, you know
Thank you Tessa
I had the power company install a dump electrical meter so I can be the only smart in the house. I received ‘threats’ from the state, and the city representatives (elected officials !!) that I was wrong and told me smart meters are sooo good (for whom?) and other propaganda.
https://www.takebackyourpower.net/watch-take-back-your-power-2017/
Action like this is exactly why I will NEVER install a remote programmable thermostat in my house. Utility companies offer them for free because they want to control the temp in your home per some lunatic control idea.
I like when they say “ win-win”. There’s no “ win” in tyranny. There’s no “ win” in slavery by ignorance or otherwise. I will run my electricity just to mess up their data. I won’t comply. Maybe I’ll be the next inventor of the water fuel car? No electricity, no fuel, no problem. That guy questionably met his demise after meeting with our gov. agents. Hmm.. 🙈 Gotta go, I’m off to buy a gas stove, maybe 2.
Hi, I disagree.
I am in the power business, and this is normal stuff. The fact that the US is running 70 years behind the rest of the world cannot be helped. If you want to go back to the middle ages, be my guest. We had our water heaters on time of use in the fifties in Holland, and that is purely a rational matter of load management. Look into the economics of the power grid a little bit and you will understand. You can accommodate everything in theory, but it becomes unaffordable, for the utilization of your distribution network will be very low, and prices very high.
By and large, I think Europe was quicker in these things exactly because energy prices tended to be higher. The US always was much more wasteful of energy.
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How will we charge our mandated E-vehicles?
Thanks so much Julie for this information. I was unaware of any pending legislation but I'll get on it! Yes, they don't like you to know about it.